CONCLUSION: I will stop watching them since all of these alligations and “false?” hardware testing makes me not wanna support them. Even if most of them aren’t true, i don’t want to risk it

ive heard some mixed things about ltt so i want to know if theyre actually bad or not

and im not watching them for linux help, i just like the content, but i also dont want to support a bad person

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    It gave him a very visible warning that this will break his system and only to proceed if you know what you’re doing. He pressed yes I know what I’m doing and purged all of the desktop environment packages. You would get the same result on any operating system by disregarding a warning like that.

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      But that should’ve never happened. He did say very clearly that he isn’t going into the challenge as a tech savvy dude but as a naive enter smashing user. That was completely on pop os for even suggesting the option.

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        As I recall, it was a transient packaging bug that was fixed within an hour of it occurring, well before the video even aired.

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          The bug should have never made it to production. Pretty unlucky that one of the biggest tech youtubers caught it on video, but still, not the best look for Linux

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      If you gave a scrolling wall of terminal text to the average PC user and then asked “yes or no”, they will just say “yes”. The point of Linus’s video was “is Linux ready for mainstream”, so his actions were fair imo. Linux users forget how simple using a PC is (or at least was) on Windows and Mac.

      You would get the same result on any operating system by disregarding a warning like that.

      When does Windows or MacOS allow you to purge your desktop environment? They would simply not install the software. They wouldn’t give you the option to break your PC in the first place

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        If you gave a scrolling wall of terminal text to the average PC user and then asked “yes or no”, they will just say “yes”.

        As much as Linus tries to claim it whenever he fucks up in Linux, he is NOT the average PC User. Yes he is a Windows power user foremost but a lot of knowledge and concepts translate broadly. For example: if you get a warning you have to read it before pressing yes like a monkey.

        I agree what happened to Linus should not have happened, but the fact that Linux distros just let you shoot yourself in the foot like that is part of the freedom Linux offers.
        “You wanna remove THAT? Sure go ahaead” in this case they even put in a “You sure you wann do that? This will break things”

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          For example: if you get a warning you have to read it before pressing yes like a monkey.

          And with this attitude you are already far out of “average pc user” territory.

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            Which is my point exactly:

            As much as Linus tries to claim it whenever he fucks up in Linux, he is NOT the average PC User.

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              I think you understood the opposite of what I was trying to say.

              Average PC users sadly do just click “yes” on everything without reading to make it go away.

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                Sorry I still feel like we have a misunderstanding here.

                I was saying that Linus is not an Average PC user so he would not simply click yes. I feel like you’re reasoning the other way round? I.e. an Average PC user would just click yes so Linus I not an averge PC user but that doesn’t make sense to me since he did simply click yes?

                I’m sorry I keep on about this and if I’m completely misunderstanding you I just wanna figure out what you mean

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                  I’m saying he was deliberately trying to act like an average user to show the average user experience to his viewers. The same reason he refused to ask experts he knows via work for help and attempted to do research available to an average user.

                  An average user would have had a good chance to run into the same system bricking bug he ran into that one time.

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                    OK. Finally got your point. That’s a fair argument and I guess one strategy to approach it that way.

                    Though I do feel like the takeaway most people had from Linus’s failure is “If Linus can’t figure it out how can I ever?” So I would argue in that way the challenges sort of falsified the truth?

                    But yeah got your point now, sorry for being slow.

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      I’ve been told a thousand times that linux and linux gaming were finally easy before getting in, not in a thousand years would I have thought installing steam would kill my whole linux installation.

      Just my two cents. Also I’ve learned that linux people tend to lie through their teeth so I never take them too seriously, the same people that get angry when you criticize linux for difficulty or weirdness will crucify you for installing steam in the exact moment a once in a lifetime bug you couldn’t predict (as a newcomer) kills your os.