like 95% of the time this happens its when i play minecraft (on lunar client) and in a discord call at the same time, PLEASE help 😭😭😭
distro: endeavourOS
gpu: nvidia rtx 3060 ti
cpu: amd ryzen 7 5700G
de: kde plasma wayland
if i need to add any extra info then please say so
Totally off topic, and not trying to be a dick, but this helped me remember a lot vs alot
Traditionally, “freezing” means that the system doesn’t respond at all. More than likely, your system is just swapping heavily and slowing down to a crawl. If that’s what’s happening, the hard drive activity light will be on constantly.
The best fix for this is more memory, but RAM is currently expensive. If you can’t afford to buy more, you may have to try to cope in software. First, do The Bleeding Obvious: close any programs that you don’t immediately need before you start that Discord call. This includes not leaving unnecessary webpages open, just in case.
See what your distro has to say about swappiness and how to set it. You probably want a value lower than the default 60, maybe even as low as 0.
If it gets worse over tme, it’s possible that something you’re running has a memory leak. You may be able to figure out what using top or similar and seeing which programs’ memory use grows over time. Restarting the greedy ones periodically may be able to keep your system from bogging down, at the cost of some inconvenience.
Moving to a bare compositor rather than the relatively heavyweight KDE might also free up some RAM, but I’m not sure how much that will actually help.
it was fine before but it seems like its gotten worse after i got a liquid glass theme thingo but idrk
Yeah, aggressively large themes and compositors will take up enough ram to do that.
sounds like memory exhaustion
Blow the dust out of the case. Redo the heat sink grease. Same for the GPU. Still does it, try a different power supply. Also check the RAM with a bootable mem86+ tool.
The next time it happens, reboot and then run
sudo journalctl -b 1 -e -x. What errors are logged?Here’s the basic tests to run, one of them will show you what the problem is
- https://memtest.org/
- sysbench memory
- sysbench cpu
- stress-ng
- gpu-burn
This article will give you the details on how to use most of them: https://www.fosslinux.com/42630/best-cpu-stress-test-performance-benchmark-linux-tools.html
Be to do them in that order, you don’t want memory issues to show up looking like cpu issues, or cpu issues to look like gpu issues.
the article is a 404 page
seems to work without the “L” at the end - https://www.fosslinux.com/42630/best-cpu-stress-test-performance-benchmark-linux-tools.htm
this is great thanks!!
That could be a failing power supply. Excessive ripple under heavy load can cause a hard lock up.
mmm interesting thanks
Could be oom? How much ram do you have and is it filling up?
i have 16gb, no idea what ddr or something it is and no idea if its “filling up” (i dont know what that means)
What filling up means is that you have 16gb of ram, and if your system tries to use it all, it will freeze, crash and require hard rebooting. I have more than double your ram and have hit oom (out of memory) which is a kernel error. Is your do some research around out of memory and how to mitigate and prevent it in Linux, you’ll find multiple solutions and how to check if it is.
First try to reliable reproduce it if possible, perhaps with a stress test app. Or start with memtest.
thats smart actually, any good apps?
Also, in case you didn’t know, memtest is an app.
ah okay 🤫
So far I didn’t have a need for it, but just search for stress test, like https://linuxvox.com/blog/linux-stress-test/ - I guess
stressutility might be a good starting point
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What does it do when it freezes? Screen suddenly gets stuck, crashes to black screen, different color screen, etc?
it basically gets so so slow that it looks frozen, but its probably just insanely slow? idrk
Just about every freeze I’ve had on Linux in more than a decade has been a GPU driver problem, even when it seems to be processor related.
It’s been a minute since i fixed it, but i was having similar problems on Mint with nvidia. The fix for me was swapping de. If you have the option, maybe give it a try.
Sorry i don’t have more details. I’m on a whole different distro nowdays.
maybe ill have this as a last resort thanks !!!
On top of the other suggestions here, upgrade your bios. We really need to know exactly what you mean by freezing though.
ill try to explain what i mean as good as possible:
when it freezes it basically gets so slow that it takes forever to do anything so its basically frozen but its maybe just really slow?
also do you mind helping me with upgrading my bios?
Sounds like you might be running out of ram and using up swap, which just grinds things to a halt.
Open a system monitoring tool at the same time and keep an eye on your ram and swap usage. If swap is filling up, that’s usually a bad sign. (if swap usage is small and not changing, that’s not necessarily bad)
For bios look at https://github.com/fwupd/fwupd and it might do it for you.
Update your microcode for your CPU, and then cold boot.
basically have no idea what that is 😔 do you mind explaininh it?
Microcode is a set of bug fixes for your CPU.
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