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    1 year ago

    Do we really need the “still don’t know 100% if we can trust her on that”? Where does Naomi Wu have a history of false allegations?

    I don’t follow Naomi Wu, so I don’t know her history. Therefore I cannot answer on the second part. But what I can say is: I don’t trust anyone who is part of an abusive, dysfunctional social system literally rendering people insane. The over sexualization of random content has to stop. It’s one thing to find NSFW material if you’re searching for it, it’s another to be constantly spammed with such content.

    And the main issue being that she wasn’t quiet about a situation that made her feel incredibly uncomfortable?

    When I get uncomfortable, I take a step back, I think, analyze, and find out what I can change so I don’t get in such a situation again. I don’t expect others to magically solve the problem for me. But being entitled comes with the job of “influencer”, I presume.

    I mean, the “receipts” were mostly that Linus said she misinterpreted what he was asking for. Maybe he was, maybe he wasn’t.

    At this point I wouldn’t be surprised if Linus is a fucking creep. He demonstrably lied about so much, this week alone. However, Linus being at fault here doesn’t exonerate Naomi then either. Two toxic people still produce a toxic result, they don’t cancel each other out, it’s not arithmetic.

    Part of not being an asshole is not putting our colleagues into situations where they have to think “Is he trying to fuck me?”

    Clearly, you’ve not met insane people. I have been around traumatized people, and they were absolutely convinced of me having intentions I never, ever had. Our society is raising lots of men to be creeps, and lots of women to be paranoid, so it doesn’t take much for shit to go sideways.

    Regardless: If you don’t think they are valid allegations, maybe just don’t mention them at all? Rather than throwing shade at an accuser? Because this shit is WHY victims of abuse don’t speak up.

    Oh, no. Just no.

    First off: I named Naomi because she did, in fact, call Linus out, and it might also be true. Me not blindly trusting her (like you apparently do) doesn’t mean I think she’s lying either. I want proof, not drama. And so far, she only provided the latter.

    Second, what shade? Me not unconditionally believing everything Naomi Wu says, or said, isn’t “throwing shade”…

    Third, and that’s the reason for the “oh no, just no” above: Not only I did not throw shade (and saying it won’t make it true), but leave victims of abuse out of this. You fucking don’t get to use them for being “right” in an online argument. Seriously, that is disgusting. You frankly should be ashamed of yourself.

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        1 year ago

        Well. Good for Madison. Even the incels are rooting for her.

        Ad hominem. Thanks for directly admitting you don’t actually have arguments.

        And a few notes:

        Exonerate her for WHAT?

        Exonerate her for witch hunting anyone out of her own paranoia. Linus being toxic elsewhere doesn’t suddenly make logic irrelevant. Proof or gtfo. Don’t expect others to solve your problems. Especially the ones you needlessly created, out of greed.

        If you hate someone because they don’t walk around in a burka

        Extremist much? So there are only two ways to dress up: a Burka, or showing your mound? Who taught you that, the supreme mullah of Iran?

        It’s actually important to realize our society is insanely frustrating people sexually (but I’m guessing you know, given your ad hominem of choice), and that in those conditions, walking around people you don’t know half naked when you look any good, is absolutely irresponsible, and entirely disrespectful.