- Download Heroic
- Download drivers
- Click play
Playing on Linux is not that hard. Dont make it look like it is.
I so wish that was the case.
Half the games I tried on Heroic don’t run and most of them run at <5 FPS even though I own a 4070 and the games I try to run are e.g. Bioshock. Number 1. The original, non-remastered one.
And stuff like Dawn of War crashes once I start the game, same as Bioshock 2, Neverwinter Nights and quite a few other older titles.
And even games that generally work fine (like Shadow of Mordor) sometimes randomly decide to run at 2 FPS.
If anyone has advice about what could cause that, I’d be grateful.
I’m on Fedora 41, running newest proprietary Nvidia drivers.
In that case you seriously fucked something up when installing the drivers
You sure you only have 1 GPU? (No APU) and how did you install them drivers?
And most importantly: What Wine prefix are you using, what wine Version, and did you restart your PC after doing updates?
Playing on Linux is not that hard. Dont make it look like it is.
you seriously fucked something up when installing the drivers how did you install them drivers? What Wine prefix are you using, what wine Version
😂
Just the right kind of humour.
People with selection bias who lucked out that their setup doesn’t cause issues and who then think they are somehow morally better people because of that.
It’s basically the Gospel of Prosperity but for Linux.
To be fair people like to use distros that arnt great choices for gaming. Any distro can game, but some are far better choices then others, doubly so if you are new to Linux.
Look at Debian, Ubuntu or anything else based off them. Frequently behind, poor gamer community support, and frequently pushes new users towards gnome.
All things that for normal day to day don’t matter one bit. But for a gamer can make things absolutely fucking awful. Creating endless edge cases.
Fedora and things based on it arnt much better. With poor gamer community support, less then stellar documentation and and frequently does some real weird shit ahead of the curve that’s very unique to fedora. Making it frequently break things related to gaming.
Bazzite is uniquely good tho for this use case, tho cachy does the same thing with less issues.
Opensuse is slightly better Tho still has some lacking gaming community support. But generally isn’t something new users are likely to use so less of a worry in a conversation about nontechnical gamers.
Which then brings you to arch which if this was 5 years ago would be a huge problem.
But with valve targeting arch specifically, most arch distros pushing users to kde, which valve targets, most gaming communities directly supporting software on the aur and arch because valve targets arch.
And the rise of stable easy to use options like endeavour, and the gaming focused cachy you have basically have one option that’s a perfect base for new users to get a os that will be well supported for their use case, and the other that’s for all functional purposes a literal steamOS clone for gamers.
So like normal you basically have a case, where the Linux community is like stuck 5 years in the past with general wisdom and telling new users to use distros that ARNT suited for their use case. Then there’s endless edge cases cropping up of people having problems and things being overly complicated.
Instead of just telling people to install a distro option that comes with everything preinstalled, preconfigured and targeted directly by the companies and developers that they specifically want to use software from.
Again anything can work, but we arnt talking about Linux users using Linux. We are talking about gamers using Linux. They don’t give a fuck about anything open source related, they don’t care one bit about the differences between distros.
They just want to game and are fed up with windows. They aren’t coming here cause they like Linux. They are coming here because they hate windows.
And that’s something that the Linux community seems to struggle with massively as a concept. Give them the thing that does what they want, they don’t care if it contains proprietary nonsense or not.
Just give them something that comes preinstalled with or is one click to install what they want.
I don’t read replies
Sad that you don’t read replies, because what you are saying makes a ton of sense, and I have questions.
I don’t really have the time to try out 20 distros. I used Kubuntu quite a lot before, but I had issues with it, so I wanted to switch away. I tried out Mint, PopOS and Fedora, due to common recommendations and Fedora is the only one that really caught my fancy.
But “tried out” means “installed it, ran one game on steam, done”. Don’t really have time for more. Since then I have regretted choosing Fedora.
What would be a good distro if I want to game, but I also need it as a general purpose distro? I don’t want to have to dual-boot between a gaming distro and my regular distro where I code and run all my regular stuff on.
I’d also like to have something that doesn’t update the kernel all that fast, since my laptop doesn’t wake from sleep on a kernel newer than 6.10 (at least on Fedora 41). It’s a documented bug that doesn’t have a fix yet, apparently.
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You are confusing who you are talking to.
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Yes, my CPU is an AMD Ryzen 7 7435HS which doesn’t have an iGPU. My Nvidia 4070 is the only GPU present on my system.
My GPU driver version is 570.153.02, which is the currently newest production version. When installing it, I used this guide: https://rpmfusion.org/Howto/NVIDIA
I tried Wine-GE-Proton8-26, GE-Proton-latest, Proton Experimental and Proton 9 (Beta). I tried each of these options with Esync and Fsync enabled and disabled and every combination of these two options.
I tried enabling/disabling VKD3D and DXVK-NVAPI.
And of course I tried rebooting.
I found quite a few people with similar issues online, but never with a fix that actually works. Most of the people with the same issues don’t get any replies at all, and if they do it’s some condescending posts from people who lucked out and don’t have the same issue and think that that makes them better people or something.
(For context, I am a software developer, I programmed for embedded Linux devices for 12 years now. I used Linux as my work OS for the last 7 years until I changed jobs half a year ago and my new company mandates Windows and now I have to deal with WSL. I use Linux as my main private OS for the last 3 years. I compiled kernels for embedded devices quite a few times. It’s fair to say that I do have a little bit of experience when it comes to troubleshooting Linux issues, and I’ve gone through a lot of troubleshooting.)
That’s super bizarre and sorry you’re having those issues. I have a 4070ti w/ an 11900k on arch (use debian on my laptop and printers, chose arch for more recent releases for drivers in particular) and guess I’ve been lucky, arch wiki won’t 100% help but might point you at other possible configs?
Had solid luck with the nvidia-open drivers, and really other than setting a few flags for hdr in KDE (which I’m not sure it’s still needed), I do recall looking at DRM kernel mode settings (section 1.2), most of my grief though has been HDR related (and gamescope doesn’t play nice with some games, steam big picture also can render strange on higher resolutions)
Could be the AMD CPU (had a few kernel issues with that CPU, for example on anything newer than 6.10 the laptop doesn’t wake from sleep, that’s a well-documented issue either with the CPU or the chipset), could be the mobile 4070, could be because I’m using Fedora (some of the issues I have like the one with performance randomly dropping to single-digit FPS and that not clearing up with a reboot are reported quite often on Fedora), could be something entirely different.
I’m on a budget gaming laptop (Lenovo LOQ), could be that they messed up something there, don’t know.
I haven’t even touched HDR so far, because the base function isn’t there.
Games on Steam don’t tend to give me trouble, for some reason it works better there, but I don’t have 300 or so free games on Steam.
Download drivers, Steam, log in, download some games and play.
Who needs a video tutorial for “hit the play button in Steam”?
How to get performance boosts through the newest drivers. How to play games and streaming them on discord without tanking the framerate. How to troubleshoot if something goes wrong. Which kernel to use, etc.
There are so many Nuances to gaming on Linux, so there’s definitely a market for it. Not seen this video yet though, could be just surface level stuff.
How to get performance boosts through the newest drivers
aka. How 2 install updates
Which kernel to use
The default one
Its not that hard if you RTFM. And if you dont, you shouldnt use linux in the first place
That’s a bit reductive, don’t you think?
The beauty of Linux is its wonderful ability to be customized. Maybe Xanmod is a good kernel for you if you play games?
Maybe if you use a desktop environment with Wayland, you’ll have less issues with screen sharing in Discord.
It’s always nice to hear what other people’s experiences are. Depending on the distro, updating drivers can be a bit trickier than noobs might expect since “Driver manager” might not actually have the newest drivers, etc.
Telling people to RTFM is all well and good, but why not share the stuff you’ve learned with others who are just getting started?
You are talking about an imaginary Audience
The normal just switched from win guy who looks up youtube videos about how to game on linux knows and cares less about linux than my guinea pig (tho, I think she knows more about linux than me after listening to me try to install gentoo for a week straight, so idk). Telling them to use x kernel, y DE with z Kernel Flags with a changed vim.conf just makes it look like its a hassle to use Linux. If someone wants to learn about linux and go into such details, they will
- Not look up a frickin youtube video since they are the worst place to learn about anything which changes every month or so
- Look up something more akin to „Which linux kernel is best for gaming“
So by making it look like these are basic steps in order to get a game running is counterproductive if only meant well
Its like if you would ask me how to drive a car, and I would go on a 2 hour tangent about synchronising the time the spark plugs fire and replacing the carburator for a more costum design so it sucks out the condensation out of the pipes after shutting off, therefore making corrosion less likely.
Even tho I could have just as well told you to fill up the gas tank at a station and turn the keys, which would have brought me sufficient results anyway
The Linux community had never once been able to grasp the concept of someone using Linux and not giving a single flying fuck about Linux.
People are here cause they hate windows, not cause they like Linux. Describes a LOT of gamers that are coming over right now.
Yet people keep pointing them at distros that ARNT something like cachy.
Valve, targets a arch based kde distro. THAT is what you should be giving gamers. That’s going to have the least issues, the best support, is what most gaming communities make their tools, tutorials and guides around.
Do not give them gnome, stop suggesting mint or pop os. Great distros, but for people that want to use Linux. Not gamers wanting to game.
Gaming basically mandates that you are on very up to date systems if you want properly supported anything. It’s like that in windows it’s no different on Linux. You can be on a out of date system and have things works but it only creates more and more possible problems.
The fact I see people in this thread talking about proton 9 beta when 10 is out SCREAMS that the problem is almost entirely because they are on a distro that’s using a older kernel and out of date packages.
This
You dont expect every car owner to know everything about it, so dont place the same standard for Linux
Seither that, or gatekeep Linux The right way
Aye, alright fair enough.
I won’t argue with you.
Unfortunately it’s not that simple.
For the vast majority of games it really is that simple though.
It isn’t. Not for a single one.
True. First you have to go into Steam settings and tick a box. Then you can play
I have been on linux for 5 years and have playing games, and the numer of games that needed ANY configuration I can count on one hand.
If you cant get STEAM games to work on your system, you’re doing something wrong.
Most games are just as simple as pressing start.
Then you must have forgotten that 5 years ago you had to go into the settings and enable Steam Play, which is completely ridiculous, and incredibly unintuitive.
One setting… Five years ago… I mean, if we’re being that pedantic, I also need to install the game before I launch it.
Its not pedantic. I’ve seen entire videos made trashing Linux for this single reason, because they didn’t know the setting existed. And how would they? It doesn’t give any sort of prompt and “Steam Play” is just nonsense words that don’t indicate anything having to do with linux.
That’s just the tip of the iceberg, especially when looking at games outside of Steam. Because that becomes WAY more complicated. And we should want people to play more than just Steam games.
Why do you make an entire video in Swedish and then make the title in English?
Maybe they aren’t very comfortable with English but know more people speak it? It’s kind of amazing how technology can let you communicate with people you otherwise couldn’t talk to otherwise.
I don’t understand how that explains anything? If they aren’t comfortable with English why are they making the title in English?
Spoken vs written word?
I’ve forgotten (over the decades) two languages I can still correspond in eg via email, but wouldn’t go past ordering food irl.
Because Youtube autotranslates these stupid titles. I hate that, since it makes it really hard to know whether you are going to understand the video before clicking it.
This is not YouTube.
Fair point. But my point still stands since quite a few peertube instances do the same.
They don’t.
Yes they do, there’s a plugin for that.
I love Garuda, I’ll have to give it a watch. Thanks!
