Considering the overwhelmingly negative feedback, I am hereby withdrawing this Change proposal. The reasoning is twofold: I have always argued that Changes that are overwhelmingly rejected by the community should not be approved by FESCo. So it would be very hypocritical if I attempted to push this through over the almost entirely negative feedback. I stand by my positions and also apply them to myself. At this point, I believe that this has no chance of being approved by FESCo for Fedora 43,...
Upon further reading, this proposal appears to have thoroughly been in bad faith with right-wing, socio-political virtue-signalling and/or advertising the X11Libre project as the actual goal.
Some highlights:
X11Libre does not even have a Fedora package available on copr, yet the proposal was to replace the consistently maintained X.org server.
Bonus to the above: The submitter conflates “not adding new features because X11 is planned for deprecation” with “unmaintained”.
There is one maintainer of X11Libre and the fork is less than a month old.
The maintainer of X11Libre purportedly “doesn’t believe in” automated testing.
The maintainer, when actively contributing to X.org caused multiple breakages and made code review problematic with their 800+ merge requests. This includes breaking the ABI.
On the code quality front, the maintainer also appears to have failed to understand the difference between XOR and exponents in the C syntax.
Sidenote: The two above make me suspect that AI slop may be prominent, beyond the general code quality issues.
X11Libre openly admits that future Nvidia compatibility is unlikely.
The cited benefit of the new features is adding security and the like. However, under the X11 model, use of these extensions is “opt-in”, making the utility and security benefits questionable (beyond the fact that all major DEs are moving to Wayland and deprecating X11 support).
EDIT: I remembered that there was something else that I found reading through that thread that makes it pretty clear that the change request was in bad faith.
CW: Antisemitism
The user “harsh noise” that admitted to creating their account just to post in the thread has some very antisemitic (actual hatred of Jewish people, not anti-zionism) posts on xitter:
Upon further reading, this proposal appears to have thoroughly been in bad faith with right-wing, socio-political virtue-signalling and/or advertising the X11Libre project as the actual goal.
Some highlights:
XOR
and exponents in the C syntax.Sidenote: The two above make me suspect that AI slop may be prominent, beyond the general code quality issues.
Extra double-bonus Metux has history of being problematic enough that Linus roasted him for speading anti-vax disinformation.
EDIT: I remembered that there was something else that I found reading through that thread that makes it pretty clear that the change request was in bad faith.
CW: Antisemitism
The user “harsh noise” that admitted to creating their account just to post in the thread has some very antisemitic (actual hatred of Jewish people, not anti-zionism) posts on xitter:
Naled antisemitism
Thread about CoC violation
XOR
and exponents in the C syntax.How does this cursed code even work 😭