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  • For me, the more relevant adage here is “a bad abstraction is worse than no abstraction”.

    IMO many abstractions in Java are terrible in this regard, either via commonly proliferated patterns or via language design issues. Abstractions large and small are all forcibly locked into place very early on in the name of formalism and safety, ultimately leaving us with poor versions of the former and weakened versions of the latter. Where is “encapsulation” when certain classes only work when hooked up in very particular ways to other distant classes? Where is “type safety” when certain methods simply raise “not implemented for this sub/super-type”?

    These faults are often hand-waved as “all ecosystems have rough patches”, but my point is that Java’s bad abstractions in particular are supremely more stubborn and persistent in comparison with other ecosystems. I understand many consider this a strength aka stability, but IMO at the extreme being unable to shed the past means negatively hindering progress. I think modern Java versions show a budding shift in mentality, but I’ve already moved on – it’s just not for me.


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    It’s a container with certain behaviors and guarantees making them easy and reliable to manipulate and compose. A practical example is a generic List, that behaves like:

    • List[1, 2, 3], i.e. (“new”, “unit”, “wrap”) to create, containing obj(s)
    • map(func) to transform objs inside, List[A] -> List[B]
    • first(), i.e. (“unwrap”, “value”) to get back the obj
    • flat_map(func), i.e. (“bind”) to un-nest one level when func(a) itself produces another List, e.g. [3, 4].flat_map(get_divisors) == flatten_once([[1, 3], [1, 2, 4]]) == [1, 3, 1, 2, 4]

    Consider the code to do these things using for loops – the “business logic” func() would be embedded and interlaced with flow control.

    The same is true of Maybe, a monad to represent something or nothing, i.e. a “list” of at most one, i.e. a way to avoid “null”.

    Consider how quickly things get messy when there are multiple functions and multiple edge cases like empty lists or "null"s to deal with. In those cases, monads like List and Maybe really help clean things up.

    IMO the composability really can’t be understated. “Composing” ten for loops via interlacing and if checks and nesting sounds like a nightmare, whereas a few LazyList and Maybe monads will be much cleaner.

    Also, the distinction monads make with what’s “inside” and what’s “outside” make it useful to represent and compartmentalize scope and lifetimes, which makes it useful for monads like IO and Async.



  • IMO it will “succeed” in the early phase. Pre-seed startups will be able demo and get investors more easily, which I hear is already happening.

    However, it’s not sustainable, and either somebody figures out a practical transition/rewrite strategy as they try to go to market, or the startup dies while trying to scale up.

    We’ll see a lower success rate from these companies, in a bit of an I-told-you-so-moment, which reduces over-investment in the practice. Under a new equilibrium, vibe coding remains useful for super early demos, hackathons, and throwaway explorations, and people learn to do the transition/rewrite either earlier or not at all for core systems, depending on the resources founders have available at such an early stage.


  • Highly recommend having some scripting/interpreted language in your stack – in fact you likely already do (consider how shell scripting makes up a significant part of Dockerfiles)

    It’s an incredibly useful intermediate between freeform-but-non-executable text/docs/wikis and “industrial-grade”-but-inflexible tooling

    In other words, a great fit for capturing this partial/incomplete/tribal knowledge space the post is talking about. I personally even go a bit further and actively advocate for converting “onboarding/operational docs” from wikis into scripts that print out the equivalent text that can be committed and incrementally automated.














  • If you used good objects, you’ll only have to make the change in one place

    IMO that’s generally a retroactive statement because in practice have to be lucky for that to be true. An abstraction along one dimension – even a good one, will limit flexibility in some other dimension.

    Occasionally, everything comes into alignment and an opportunity appears to reliably-ish predict the correct abstraction the future will need.

    Most every other time, you’re better off avoiding the possibility of the really costly bad abstraction by resisting the urge to abstract preemptively.