Oh dear oh dear oh dear

Yes they’re not the same. Do you think scientist are unaware of that? It is most certainly not almost completely pointless. Are you?

Do you think they just grab a random kitten and shove drugs up its bum until it bursts?

Yes I’m choosing Plasma - it’s actually good out of the box and then can be made better!

KDE works out of the box but can be customised, unlike gnome, which if it’s not how you want to use it does not work out of the box and there’s nothing you can do about it

Unlike gnome, kde can be configured to look and act completely different so you should be fine

I mean exactly what I say. Yes you can select other images but they’re remixes or spins or alternative versions, the “main” version is usually gnome. And you know it!

KDE is not less consistent, it’s just more configurable. Sorry, actually configurable. Gnome basically says “Do it our way or not at all… okay maybe you can change some colours if you must”, which is much more of a Windows (and especially MacOS) attitude than KDE. The default layout of kde is bit more windows like (but less rubbish) but far more configurable. As to hacked together… have you seen gnome’s file dialogues???

Not sure what Pantheon DE is. Does Temple OS use it?

I don’t actually care about gnome, so much as about gnome being the default for most distros when kde is just better at everything a de and a unix-like system should do. Gnome is just… restrictive. Do it their way or you can;t do much of anything. And most annoyingly, the file dialogues are shite!

Is it up to the level of quality and features of KDE yet?

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Yeah, but gterminal or konsole?

edit: apparently people didn’t realise this was a really obvious joke

That’d be an editor thing rather than a language thing, I would have thought. It’s probably configurable in some

How do you… Oh sorry

But yeah that sounds unpleasant

You can set those things to be visible in many editors. Its ugly tho

It’s more powerful than nano, sure, but it’s also needlessly more complex a ui. Your use case is legit and that you know vi is a reason to continue using it, but it absolutely should not ever be the default for anything any more!

If I am forced to use an editor in the terminal, nano generally. But I very rarely need to because I have a functioning modern computer from within the last 25 years and therefore have a gui I can rely on. If I somehow manage to break the gui in a way that requires me to edit a text file (itself very very rare) I can fix it with nano.

Now, why would you voluntarily use an editor with a ui that’s needlessly confusing and convoluted, an arse to learn, and notoriously difficult to even save a file and close without checking help files if you haven’t already memorised completely random key combinations? I would say we’d love to know, but we already do. It’s because you’re an arrogant dickwad - at least that’s what your last comment makes you look like

Literally anything up to and including poking yourself in the eyes and trying to develop laser vision to manually modify bits on the disk platter

Because you’re used to it. No other reason