harmonea

I didn’t say they don’t make good games. I said they drink the koolaid.

Context matters, and in the context of this thread (whether or not Bethesda games often have Denuvo) that means the anti-piracy “DRM is neat” koolaid (vs them avoiding DRM for self-developed games so they can be modded extensively).

Bethesda the publisher does things differently than Bethesda the developer.

As a dev, they know their modding communities keep their games alive long, long past their expiration dates and will fuck with them as little as they possibly can - this takes them from games to household names to legends that everyone knows.

As a publisher pushing products that aren’t intended to be modded, they drink the koolaid.

Well, we can agree on that! Make paying contributors the cheaper option.

I won’t hold my breath though. :')

I did already say I don’t expect this to ever change, so “sorry mate,” but you’re not exactly telling me anything I don’t know here.

But I suspect this was a knee-jerk rant typed before bothering to read past what you quoted. Oh well. Good thing I can still stand against something even if I don’t expect it to change much.

Paying individual users isnt feasible

Sounds like their problem to solve, not mine.

Framing this solely as fear is extremely disingenuous. Speaking only for myself: I’m not against the development of AI or LLMs in general. I’m against the trained models being used for profit with no credit or cut given to the humans who trained it, willing or unwilling.

It’s not even a matter of “if you aren’t the paying customer, you’re the product” - massive swaths of text used to train AIs were scraped without permission from sources whose platforms never sought to profit from users’ submissions, like AO3. Until this is righted (which is likely never, I admit, because the LLM owners have no incentive whatsoever to change this behavior), I refuse to work with any site that intends to use my work to train LLMs.

Hey, thanks for that link! I’m really glad to have the details so I can verify for myself.

However, with that, I can REALLY confirm this is not an issue inherent to the DODI repack. DODI’s is what I’m using and I have none of that on my system – I checked with that powershell command, then also followed along with the comments to check other files and scheduled tasks that were mentioned.

That said, I got my download from torrentleech. I suspect a tainted version of the repack got onto certain other sites. It wouldn’t be the first time (which is why I specify trusted sites and uploaders in addition to release groups).

For the RUNE release, it probably has more to do with what AV they’re using and how sensitive it is. Cracked games flag AVs all the time, you have to pay attention to what it’s alerting you about. If you’re being careful and clean about the sites, uploaders, and release groups you trust, that “trojan” is usually nothing more than an injected hook to defeat DRM.

The DODI repack is based on the RUNE release which I believe is clean. Another commenter claims a found Trojan but there are others who found nothing, and imo it’s probably just the usual crack shenanigans.

Edit: See replies! It seems there are tainted versions of the repack out there, but there are clean ones too. Remember to keep a critical eye on your sites and uploaders in addition to your release groups. There’s a useful link in a reply to me below showing what you might see if you’ve downloaded a bad one.

Most of the comments here seem to be arguing whether it’s better to get help now from SO or ChatGPT, but this is a pretty short-sighted mindset.

What happens when the next new standard comes out that ChatGPT hasn’t been trained on? If SO tanks and dies, where will you go?

I’m not saying use a lesser resource, I’m saying this is kinda tragic and I hope they can sustain themselves; AI is propped up by human input and can’t train itself.

They’re just protecting themselves; Nintendo’s legal team is infamously tenacious and expensive to defend against, so yuzu can’t give them the slightest indication they support the real day-to-day use case of their software.

They dance so we can sail.