Who cares what people online are saying? Most people just like to hate on the popular thing to hate because it makes them feel like they are sitting at the cool kid’s table at lunch.

Obviously consider the limitations of what you’re using for the project you’re using it for. But do the analysis for yourself. Don’t avoid something just because people don’t like it.

For example Javascript gets a lot of flak online but it’s one of the most popular languages and in my opinion, it’s great for what it does. I prefer coding in JS over Python even if JS has those idiosyncrasies that makes it the subject of many memes online.

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Ajit Pai used to be a lawyer for AT&T, just like the previous guy was an executive for the ISPs. However Ajit Pai was nominated by Obama originally. Trump made him head, but don’t get it twisted - there is a bipartisan concerted effort to fuck you. Tom Wheeler was just as bad as Pai - they were considering getting rid of net neutrality already in 2014 under him.

They basically just wait for the right moment to strike. If they fail they wait a few years and try again. They have a lot more patience persistence and attention than the public. They will always win.

Everybody keeps referencing Ploum and he’s got a great blog - I have him on my RSS feed. But he’s wrong about this. Google didn’t kill XMPP because it was never anything more than niche to begin with. Google Talk was like 99% of XMPP users from the very start. It isn’t analogous to our current situation.

But here’s my trying to make some sort of example- The big company takes a new technology and embraces it - like Meta with ActivityPub. Then they extend it, but in such a way that it isn’t compatible with the rest of the format.

So let’s imagine how this could be done in ActivityPub. Maybe there are some features on Threads that creates a sort of centralized index of all Fediverse sites. So if you wanted to search for something, Threads was the best. So because of this, many people start using Threads.

Then, extinguish. They kill the standard. So Meta kills ActivityPub and makes it so that everyone who made an account on Threads is locked in.

What happened to the Fediverse in this scenario? Nothing. It will be exactly the same as before. A federated group of instances.

Unless we are scared of thr vast majority of users flocking to Threads should we federated with them, which i sincerely doubt because most people don’t trust Meta, then what is the risk? I don’t see any.

What is the potential reward? Connecting our communities with millions of people. Millions of people will follow threads and people from Fediverse and will learn about the movement. More connection, more integration with an open protocol.

Everyone is jumping on this anti-federation bandwagon, repeating the same couple sentences they heard someone else put down without any independent thought. I think we live in crazy land sometimes.

Ya buddy I’m a shill. Meta is paying me big bucks.

You might not like what I have to say but pay attention the next few months. I fully expect federation to happen to at least some instances. Which will lead to influx of users on that instance over time.

Some instances will federate with Threads. Those will have much more content because they will be connected to millions of people. Over time, they get bigger than the ones that don’t.

Eventually, all big instances are federated with Threads.

you have zero argument foe the rest of us

And neither do you. It’s the admins of the instances that ultimately have the say. This isn’t any more democratic than reddit. It’s just easier to switch instances if you don’t like something.

There will be plenty of instances for federation with meta and plenty without. No need to get worked up about it. This is what an open standards means. It means people can openly use it.

Ok so they make new features on their threads platform. All of a sudden cross posting from lemmy to threads gets more difficult because they aren’t respecting the standard.

Now what? Are all Lemmy users gonna flood over to Threads now? The vast majority don’t even want to federated to Threads, let alone migrate their accounts.

I think this whole thing is overblown. EEE is a real thing but nobody has yet to provide a concrete mechanism that can come about from just federation with Threads.