Correct. Remote streaming used to be free. That changed…in April? I don’t remember the exact date but it was announced earlier this year and has been slowly rolling out. Now you either have to have a Plex pass for your server or each user who wants to remote stream has to pay for a remote watching subscription and show in OPs screenshot.

There are of course ways to get around this such as all your users being on a VPN so as far as Plex can see its “internal”. I suppose if you use a reverse proxy but didn’t pass X-forwarded-for headers then that may get around it as well? I never messed with it as I was looking for an excuse to dump Plex anyway. Now I’m finally jellyfin only.

Yes, however using the relay is not a prerequisite to being required to pay for a Plex subscription. That is what he is trying to say.

I can run Plex on the open internet and not use their relay at all, however if the IP of the viewer is not an interal IP on the same subnet as Plex (I assume the same subnet is required) then you’ll be greeted with the Plex paywall.

You are absolutely correct that it costs money to run a relay, but the relay has nothing to directly do with the paywall.

DC my server is at is shutting down so I have to bring everything home. Conveniently I just got hooked up with symetric 1G fiber so that’s not too much of a problem now thankfully.

Currently exploring docker swarm as a method of using one of my external VPSs to route all external traffic though it to my hardware at home on my tailnet.

Swarm isn’t required for this but figured I’d play around with it.

Been on gaming kn Linux for a while now. Overall with Steam and Proton I rarely have any issues.

From what I’ve gathered in other posts regarding Plex and jellyfin, the ones that never learned how to port forward or any other alternative solution for getting external traffic to their internal server. All the complaints I’ve read here regarding jellyfin boiled down to them relying on the Plex relay to handle the traffic for them.

Apologies for the long delay. I was using just the browser via your docker image but today I’ve done some testing with the electeon app.

Wonderful that you added PTT but it’s implementation has a flaw as the Peersuite window MUST be in focus for the PTT key to be read.

As far as the video goes, I’ve definitely confirmed that there’s is some serious frame drop which I’m assuming is directly related to the bitrate in same way. I had a friend on windows use the electron app and share his screen while I watched from the electron app on Linux. I took the following recording to better demonstrate what I’m saying. The quality has gone through multiple transcodes now but that’s not really important as the framerate is what I’m referring to anyway. https://files.catbox.moe/03f5b1.mkv

Perhaps talking about bitrate wasn’t correct of me. After looking at this again image quality itself is actually pretty good but the framerate is a different story.

To provide context, I used it to share the video game I was playing as my friends that use discord tell me they primarily stick to it for its screen sharing capability which they use when gaming.

I’m not sure how to best test this and provide metrics to you if this is improvable or even something you care about.

To attempt to take the connection factor out of the equation I opened two browser windows and viewed my own screen share from a different username and even then the framerate is not great.

Well hell I may stand this up tonight. My only question is does the voice chat support push-to-talk?

Edit: Ok, gave it a spin. It does not support push-to-talk but being fully browser based I don’t think that’s a trivial thing to implement anyway.

That said, this is pretty sweet though certainly still rudimentary. I was really looking forward to the screen sharing but my friend on the other end said the quality and framerate were pretty bad. Not sure what flexibility there is as far as adjustable bit rate and framerate with what you’re doing but I’ll definitely be keeping my eye on this project.

True though that’s less server operator and more “just being helpful to your mom”. That said it seems nowadays that a Jellyfin app is available on most devices/ecosystems (or maybe I just don’t have experience with enough devices to have an accurate idea).

Jellyfin is a fully self hosted drop in. That means it’s up to the server operator to handle everything. You would still tell your mom to just install the Jellyfin app on her TV with the one additional step in your server address which you would tell her.

But yes, you as the operator have to do some extra things like implementating a reverse proxy and if hosting out of your home make necessary network configuration changes to accommodate this access.

No i mean instead of OpenVPN i would recommend you look into using Tailscale. If you want to fully self host it then you can run the open source control plane called Headscale instead of relying on Tailscale’s (the company) free service tier on their own control plane.

The Tailscale client and server are also open source.

You’ll always have bots knocking on your doors. In general keep the doors locked and you are fine.

I highly recommend trying tailscale with headscale over openvpn.

There is a somewhat native file editor in nextcloud but for your needs I would recommend setting up integration with either OnlyOffice or Collabora (LibreOffice). I am currently using OnlyOffice and while my utilization isn’t much or often it seems to do what it should without any fuss.

Haven’t had any issues whatsoever.

I’ve done nothing special regarding security and have it exposed to the public internet. I intend on having fail2ban look at its logs but I’ve not yet set that up (entirely out of laziness).

If you want to be very secure I would recommend having it entirely behind a VPN. I personally use tailscale+headscale for my internal only services but like I said I have Nextcloud publicly exposed as I want to be able to access it from potentially any device.

As far as the “what you want” stuff goes, Nextcloud can do all of it and I use it for exactly that.

That is not correct. A VPN would be one method but you can also just expose the service to the internet in a number of ways and accomplish the same thing Plex provides.

No. You have to expose your server to the internet in some way bit you don’t have to set up some sort of VPN. There are plenty of people who will tell you how awful of an idea it is but if you make smart choices it’s not a big deal.

You should build the hardware around what your compute requirements dictate. A NAS needs little in the area if compute power but Minecraft could be a little demanding. Review the Minecraft server requirements and build based on that. Or build to Max out your budget and get the best you can up to that point.

The -R is the recursive switch

I just expose it to the internet.