Yup. You’ll see functions wrapped inside other functions all the time. The function on the inside will run first, then the next, etc.

In the example I gave, the value of nam is a string. But it you need to perform some mathematical function to it, it needs to be interpreted as a number. So once the value is received, int() will convert it into a number. Finally, that final value will be assigned to nam. Wrapping functions inside of functions is a great way to write concise code.

I think you need to look into string concatenation, the easiest and best of which is f strings. You could do something like;

print(f’welcome, {nam}')

You could also “add” the strings together.

print('welcome, ’ + nam)

Another thing, when assigning the output of something to a variable, you can think of it as “the result of the code right of the equals sign is the value of the variable”.

The input function assumes that the value should be interpreted as a string, but what if want it to be a number? You can just wrap another function around your input

user_number = int(input(‘what’s the number?’))

Your experience may vary but I’m a network engineer who learned Python and I think learning regex and pandas is invaluable. Depends on what you want to build though. As far as learning resources, I’ve always liked w3schools, it’s free and to the point.

For books, python 101 by Michael Driscoll is very good. I wouldn’t spend money on courses. They can be pretty demotivating and expensive.

I came across this early in my career in networking. I ended up having to support another technicians customer(we primarily managed our own workloads) and he did not use the tools(vault) we had to manage the network equipment credentials, so I always had to call him and ask him what the password is and why he doesn’t update it in the vault(it frequently changed) … After bothering him enough about it he said it was job security.

This was a 45k entry level job that he was years into. Why someone would want job security at the bottom part of the totem pole is beyond me, but that is where I mostly came across tribalistic tendencies(I worked in a lot of small/medium sized companies before getting a big break)

If I look up those people on LinkedIn, they’re exactly where they were or in another lateral position. They don’t tend to make it very far.

I guess let people have their fun, but I agree. Class C space is pretty insignificant

I’m not a developer but I write a lot of code for network infrastructure automation… when I started learning I was already a network engineer so I figured it would be a cakewalk. I think it takes a certain type of person (patience, persistence, tenacity, etc) to excel in a computer science field. I’d reckon a lot of young people think the jobs are all pretty sweet and cushy

I agree with most of what you said but it wouldn’t hurt to create a watered down version of the site and put it on a subdomain like noobs.github.com … There can be separate UIs for different kinds of users.

They could ask when you register an account what you intend to use GitHub for and what your familiarity is.

What are the implications of this?

You quoted half of the sentence. I think there’s enough substance on there to consider that an informed opinion.

I have been a network engineer with no degree for many years, but I did have a lot of certs. It’d be nice if there were something similar for programming. But I’ve never seen anyone care that much about the engineer title. I’ve always thought it’s someone who understands his craft/engine design in and out, but doesn’t design it himself. The architect designs it. The tech can perform documented solutions

IANAL but i’m pretty sure that even without an NDA anything you develop on the job is considered IP of the company. However, as long as it’s not a blatant copy paste(a rewrite), it’s hard to legally enforce that because they have to prove damages. Meaning that if they shelfed the idea/program, even if it’s a blatant copy paste they can’t do anything.

What programming language? You might have to back to basics. I know what you mean though. That was my frustration as well. The basics aren’t covered well enough on many courses, and learning in a browser IDE adds anxiety when following tutorials if you don’t know how to set up your environment.

If it’s with Python, maybe I can help. Getting your environment set up is the most important part. I like to use pycharm, it forces you into virtual environments but that’s a good practice to follow and gives you plenty of practice with the basics since you’ll have to install your dependencies for every project.

Sometimes the dependencies change, and it’s nice to know what version you previously used vs how the new package version works.

As far as I know, the only thing that the new python integration helps with is that users don’t have to install Python or have to know how to use pip to install packages like pandas, because Python doesn’t run locally. It is neat how you can visualize data and show it inline with the Excel document though. My industry is very regulated, so we won’t be able to use it since the data you pass to Python goes to Azure for processing

Did you look at the subject at hand? It wasn’t a feature request, it was an a bug issue that had been opened by the programming.dev admins back when there were issues with the instance not federating. It seems to me like OP was providing context(after the issue was mysteriously resolved) and the Lemmy dev lost his cool.

I worked as a network engineer and got pretty frustrated working with outdated applications that were not user friendly. Once I became a supervisor, a large part of my job became writing and generating reports summarizing events that happened on the network that no one would ever read. I wanted to learn programming to automate the things I hated about my job.

I’m still an engineer, not a developer, but I enjoy writing user focused programs that reduce or eliminate worker frustration. As with many jobs, it’s not the networking that’s difficult, it’s all the other bullshit you have to do.

Also, learning how to parse, model and visualize data can really help you make your point to your management and get your ideas pushed through. Also a great way to earn brownie points with your bosses, as managers tend to love graphs.

Wish I could say it was a passion for me but I really learned out of necessity.

Honestly I’d suggest something that gets you out of the house more. Motorcycles, Latin dance, hiking and drinking is what I do for fun. I do enjoy programming for fun sometimes but the inspiration is something you have to find in other areas of life.

The nice thing in Lemmy is that even when the posts have a lot of comments, you get good engagement. And I haven’t come across many of the bad attitudes from reddit

Bro me too LMAO. I’ve posted a few thoughtful, well thought out comments to bring some perspective to a conversation… No replies, no comments, nothing. I was beginning to think Lemmy was dead

Bruh on one post people are bandwagoning rust and then on another post people calling it esoteric 🤣 hard to see what’s what past the hype. I mostly code in Python though so I might need to find out for myself

That’s great. That’s basically the route I’m looking to take, though my background is mostly with networking, so I have some catching up to do in sysadmin skills. Thanks for your insight! I’ll give you a follow (idk if that exists in the fediverse lol) and maybe follow up with you later. It’s great you’re willing to be a resource for the aspiring engineers. That’s the kind of spirit I try to embody.