How much is the speed drop from translation using Proton? Is it so big or just small? Hows the performance of cartoonish Windows only games? And whats your hardware and how much is the price? I’m sorry but I cannot test it myself because I’m still on my mobile. Can you also tell about how many games are compatible with Proton? What about non-popular games?

  • Horsey@lemmy.world
    2·
    2 hours ago

    AMD gfx cards cannot meet or exceed 5080/5090 cards. That said, I think a 9070xt is the best choice right now, because it’s probably going to be cheaper overall to just upgrade in 3-4 years rather than buy a 5090 and hold onto it for 10 years or whatever. You do you, but for me, I think upgrading early is the better choice since 2 flagship AMD cards should equal the price of the nvidia 5080.

  • Horsey@lemmy.world
    2·
    2 hours ago

    As far as distros are concerned, Bazzite is a fantastic starting point because you almost certainly can’t go wrong. If you run into programs that need a kernel module or superuser permissions, just distro hop. It’s very likely that in your first time using Linux that you’ll not need those power user things, so Bazzite will be rock solid for you.

    Also, in Linux, best practice is to set your home folder to be a separate partition on your HD. You can point your distro to the existing home folder so if you distro hop and you won’t lose your desktop environment prefs/setup or your files.

    Here’s my notes on this for Fedora if you need a guide:

    Tap for spoiler

    Drive partitioning is highly variable between distros and even within distros that have received updates. The following shows the modern setup for all distros at this time. swap will depend on how much RAM the system has, and whether hibernation will be used. The proper /system partition size varies from distro to distro. Add a /home folder using the remainder of your drive space. In my case, I have an entire drive for my /home folder (the WD drive) that just doesn’t get reformatted ever if I distrohop.

    Apps

    1. LocalSend
      1. Remember to use Flatseal to grant filesystem access to the Flatpak so dragging and dropping work outside of ~Downloads folder (Flatpaks by default are sandboxed)
    2. Steam
      1. install from package manager, NOT Flatpak or Snap version to include controller dependencies all together
    3. Zen Browser
    4. Geekbench
      1. run in terminal after installing Flatpak; otherwise will close terminal window without showing link to view score
    /usr/bin/flatpak run --branch=stable --arch=x86_64 --command=geekbench6 com.geekbench.Geekben
ch6

    1. Discord

      <aside>
      💡

      1. install from RPM Fusion else rich presence won’t work
      2. set autostart args so app opens minimized in system tray
        </aside>
      sudo dnf install <https://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-$>(rpm -E %fedora).noarch.rpm
sudo dnf install discord

      system settings > autostart > add new, > application > select discord

      see properties > application tab > Arguments > enter --start-minimized

    2. CEMU (from Discover/Flatpak store)

    3. Retroarch

  • siravious@lemmy.world
    3·
    8 hours ago

    I’m not enough of an expert to provide advice, but I can share what works well for me. I have tried games released across a 30 year span from multiple publishers using multiple types of engines using multiple launchers. I’ve had no issues with 240 Hz, an ultra wide display, or HDR. The one problem I’ve had is that the sound card doesn’t wake up properly after a long period of sleep, and so I double click an icon to wake it up. When I do, the Dolby digital 5.1 surround sound works perfectly.

    OS: CachyOS Mobo: Rog strix x870e CPU: Ryzen 9950X3D RAM: 64 GB DDR5 6000 MT/s (don’t remember brand) GPU: Asus Tuf 5090 SSD: 1x Samsung 9100 2TB 1x Samsung 9100 4TB both PCIe5 Power: Seasonic 1200W 80 gold modular

  • Malyca@lemmy.zip
    3·
    10 hours ago

    You picked a terrible time. Hope you luck out on components though. If you try the Chinese ram, tell us how it works?

  • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    27·
    20 hours ago

    How much is the speed drop from translation using Proton?

    The speed drop is negative. That is, it’s often actually faster.

    Yes, I know it doesn’t seem to make sense.

    • Jankatarch@lemmy.world
      2·
      8 hours ago

      Someone explained it in laymans terms as “imagine it not as a virtual machine, but more like a translation program converting windows-specific code into linux.”

      I did not fact-check if they are just pulling the explanation out of their ass tho, so please correct me if inaccurate.

      • AnAmericanPotato@programming.devEnglish
        3·
        7 hours ago

        That’s correct. Wine, which is what Proton is based on, is not a VM or emulator. It is a re-implementation of key windows APIs so Windows EXEs can run. Assuming you’re on a x64 PC, the code is executing natively.

    • Corgana@startrek.website
      5·
      10 hours ago

      I tried out Bazzite with an Nvidia 40-series card last year and performance was the same as Windows for everything I tested

      All things being equal I would go with AMD too, but if I was OP I certainly wouldn’t turn down a good deal on an Nvidia card if one presented itself.

  • wax@feddit.nu
    8·
    20 hours ago

    Apart from other things said here (e.g. AMD GPU), if you are planning on using wifi check that the adapter works well. Intel wifi usually works very well on Linux (although I have read that there are some issues with their newer wifi chips). AMD mobos usually use some kind of mediatek chipset. It might be better supported now, but I ended up replacing mine with another m.2 wifi (intel ax200).

    A quick search for general support from the mobo vendor is probably a good idea too.

    • Horsey@lemmy.world
      1·
      3 hours ago

      I got a good bundle deal from Microcenter on a mobo with a wifi card that took over a year to be properly supported by the Linux kernel (or whatever relevant entity). This is good advice, but it’s likely that since we’re at the end of the AM5 generation, no new mobos should come out needing updates to function properly.

      Tap for spoiler

      In my case, it was that I needed to hard power cycle (unplug, replug) sometimes to get Linux to initiate the networking card.

  • Nibodhika@lemmy.world
    54·
    1 day ago

    Some tips for you:

    • Check game compatibility using https://www.protondb.com/ this will let you know if the games you want to play run on Linux and how well they do so

    • Buy an AMD GPU, support for Linux is great on them, miles ahead of nVidia. If you already had an nVidia card it’s usable, but if you’re starting fresh 100% AMD.

    • Don’t fret too much on the distro of choice, not sure how familiar you are with Linux but because of the questions I assume not much. If this machine will also be used as a normal computer prefer a general use distro (my recommendation would be Mint), if you’ll plug it on the TV and use it as a console prefer a gaming distro (I’ve heard good stuff about Bazzite but never used it myself). You can have / and /home be different partitions, this means that you can distro hop and maintain your games, saves, and most configs from one distro to the other, or even when reinstalling the system, I strongly recommend people to do that.

    • Linux is not windows, things are done differently and that’s okay. A lot of the frustration of new users comes from trying to do things the windows way and failing miserably, e.g. trying to install programs/drivers by navigating to a random web page and downloading a binary.

    Good luck, and ask any more questions you might have.

    • Peasley@lemmy.world
      22·
      1 day ago

      Mint is a good suggestion for a new user. An underrated distro, but solid, simple, and works well for any purpose.

        • throwaway403@programming.dev
          10·
          1 day ago

          I don’t agree with the sentiment that Linux Mint is underrated either. As you note, it is quite popular and is mentioned a lot in the discourse.

          However, I don’t think that CachyOS and Linux Mint are the most popular distros; that undoubtedly goes to Ubuntu. And, if anything, I’d think that Linux Mint is more popular than CachyOS.

          Yet, if we’d limit it to the distros used by gamers, then CachyOS probably does take the crown for most used distro (aside from SteamOS). At least, there are metrics that suggest as such.

            • throwaway403@programming.dev
              1·
              2 hours ago

              Ah okay, thanks for clarifying!

              FYI, DistroWatch isn’t a very reliable metric for gauging the user base of any given distro. Heck, strictly speaking, I’m unaware of any metric that does this any justice besides the opt-out DNF Count Me found on Fedora-based distros. And we will use exactly that to discredit DistroWatch!

              So, Fedora (1112[1]) has put out a number (relatively) recently; 961k users. And Bazzite (770) outright displays it on their website; 90.8k users. Like, Fedora is roughly 10 times as big as Bazzite. But their respective DistroWatch rankings don’t quite reflect that.

              1. As per DistroWatch’s 12 months, I’ll use the same table for Bazzite*. ↩︎

        • melfie@lemmy.zip
          3·
          22 hours ago

          “Top 10 most popular Linux distro” type articles I’ve seen usually list Mint near the top.

  • BartyDeCanter@piefed.socialEnglish
    38·
    1 day ago

    For the most part you would just build the same machine as if it was a Windows gaming machine. That said, there are a few things to know:

    • AMD has historically had better video drivers on Linux than nVidia, though nVidia has made some changes that has improved things quite a bit
    • You want a basic, well supported common distribution if you’re not extremely familiar with Linux. Don’t go with some weird niche distro because you heard it will get you 1% better frame rates. Things like Steam and Lutris are well supported on the common easy distros. I would suggest Mint as it is Debian based, and basically everything supports Debian derivatives.
    • Not every game will work, but a whole lot will. The things that are most unlikely to are competitive online games with anticheat root kits. If those matter to you, then unfortunately you’re better oft in windows.
    • Take a look at https://www.protondb.com/ for a list of what is well supported and any information if they need some trick to run.
    • First_Thunder@lemmy.zip
      132·
      1 day ago

      For a new PC I’d probably recommend fedora, purely due to more modern kernels with better hardware support, though Mint now has the Hardware Enablement Kernels iirc

  • osanna@lemmy.vgEnglish
    34·
    1 day ago

    How much is the speed drop from translation using Proton? Is it so big or just small?

    Honestly, in some cases, proton is faster than games directly on winblows. Microslop even said they’re going to try to make windows faster than proton again.

      • artyom@piefed.socialEnglish
        8·
        1 day ago

        It is more or less the same. There are countless comparisons and Linux usually wins by a small margin but not always.

  • Sanctus@anarchist.nexusEnglish
    13·
    1 day ago

    Most games I just click play and they run.

    Ryzen 9 x3D, XFX Radeon 9700 XT, 32 GBs RAM, with some flavor of MSI mobo I am too lazy to get the box out to look at.

    It took me like a year to build as I was saving for all the parts (and the everything crisis began, at the time called the RAMpocalypse). I think it was around 3K to build then including the 2TB M.2

    I’m never going back.