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    3 days ago

    well I skimmed specifically for lca study combinations, and found them quickly. that invalidates all the data. if I read further, who knows what else i might find

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      3 days ago

      Skimming is usually not a great way to make definitive conclusions about a study. Would you care to elaborate on what about the LCA methodology “invalidates all the data”, and how you could make such a claim with certainty simply by skimming it?

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        3 days ago

        if you had read this study, and understood the underlying science, the fact that I skimmed it would not interfere with your abilitiy to defend it.

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          I have not had any issue defending it, but you apparently have an issue with providing rigorous citations for your claims.

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            3 days ago

            you haven’t explained why you think combining disparately methodized lca studies produces good data.

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              Where did they combine LCA methodologies exactly? They cited exactly one LCA methodology, so I’m not sure what you are referencing when you mention “combining”.

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                  No one combined them. Xu, who you are calling into question, used one LCA methodology.

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        3 days ago

        LCA studies are custom built for each product comparison. by combining multiple LCA studies that have desperate methodology, they have muddied the results. none of this is reliable. it’s not good science.

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          They use someone else’s LCA methodology. It honestly sounds like you are just making shit up. Maybe try skimming a bit more thoroughly?

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              I do understand the science, and nothing you have said negates my point.

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                  You haven’t actually made a single point that is relevant to the discussion.

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                    your claim that livestock are a problem was supported by a dubious study. pointing out its inability to actually support that claim is highly relevant.

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              It also doesn’t make it bad, and you have yet to articulate how it is bad.

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                  3 days ago

                  This you?

                  “i am more than willing to engage on any positive claim you want to make (i probably agree with a lot of them). what i’m not willing to do is tolerate personal attacks and dogpiling.”

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              It’s really quite irrelevant to the overall point I was making, and was one of several studies that puts the estimate for animal agriculture between 10-20%. Anything else you would like to nitpick about that is irrelevant to the actual discussion?