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Edit Here is the link for those asking: https://twitter.com/Dexerto/status/1669488722381774849
Horrible move but it looks like a lot of subs are going to roll over and take it - I guess this was always the plan and that reddit figures its better to move quickly to prevent protests taking hold.
Hoping more will break away and move here instead but not expecting a mass exodus.
I closed my twitter last year because Elon is a scumbag, I’ll happily do the same on reddit.
Fuck Reddit
If they did this normally instead of the garbage sub request system then honestly their site might be a little fucking better, but doing it just now is blatant and gross
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“The blackout didn’t affect us at all.”
“If you don’t unblackout we’re going to start removing moderators and taking over subreddits.”
I think, maybe, the blackout hurt them. If it goes on for longer then ad buyers will shift their money to other platforms.
My guess is that this was the plan all along - move fast so mods are forced to pick a side and sadly I think many will stick with reddit.
I wonder if this is targeted at mods where perhaps the subs are open, but the mods are not actively performing their duties as a form of protest.
Interesting since there was an article, like yesterday, of Reddit saying they weren’t going to remove mods. I guess its time to make an aged like milk community here on Lemmy if there isn’t already one.
Some have re-opened and just changed the rules so that posts are basically spam. Like r/pics is only John Oliver looking sexy. They’re technically not closed, but just as worthless to Reddit from a content perspective.
Wow, they really doubling down on digging their own graves.
Glad to see this community thriving over here tho ;)
They make it worse … Good for us
Didn’t they literally say they wouldn’t force re-open sub reddit’s? Suprise suprise another lie.
tbh Im not surprised they would. r/piracy is both niche and wouldnt be worth to remove mods for. Subs like r/aww or r/funny however are main parts of Reddit, and this also applies to massive game subs like r/Minecraft
You know, when you look at where the subscribers were and what the default subs were, I guess this shouldn’t be surprising. There’s a reason Lemmy/Kbin already feel more like “old” Reddit, and it’s because that was always the “alt” social media users, generally a bit more tech savvy and certainly more open minded to new platforms. At some point Reddit filled up with Facebook and Instagram scrubs and I didn’t even notice.
I was definitely a power user of Reddit, but I’m not sure I was even subscribed to a single default sub. Whoever was hitting up Reddit for r/aww and r/funny was probably never going to take a principled stand over API debates and the centralization and profit chasing administrative choices.
There’s a reason Lemmy/Kbin already feel more like “old” Reddit, and it’s because that was always the “alt” social media users, generally a bit more tech savvy and certainly more open minded to new platforms.
Absolutely this. I was on Reddit prior to the digg migration, and Reddit definitely changed when that happened. Fortunately it wasn’t complete shit, a lot of the folks from digg picked up the reddiquette and assimilated, but there was still a sea-change for sure. And then over the years as it grew and grew it steadily got worse and worse, and I found myself unsubbing from more and more subs, then completely blocking others, then finally dropping /r/all completely - and never did grok /r/popular, man that feed was a corporate shitshow from the day it launched.
but I’m not sure I was even subscribed to a single default sub.
I certainly haven’t been, ever since the brigade to ban /r/nonewnormal - whatever your thoughts on that subs existence, watching the reddit community actively brigade to shut down a sub they didn’t like, man fuck that. I absolutely abhor blatant censorship like that. Every single sub I was subscribed to that participated in that charade I dropped like a hot potato. And then the admins, instead of following their own rules, rewarded the behavior and banned the sub (who had broken no rules, other than to go against the narrative). It was fucking Orwellian.
The dwindling continued - watching supposed time-waster subs become completely political was such a drag. Like man, I just want to see some cats doing cat shit, and now I’m mad. Fuck that, I’m out.
And then the bans… oh, you subscribe to this totally unrelated sub, so you’re banned from these subs too. Lolwut? I started wearing bans like a badge of honor - after over a decade on the site, contributing and sharing knowledge and never even getting any warnings I started racking up bans for complete bullshit - I made a game out of it: what’s the most innocuous comment I can make to earn a ban? Fun times.
Then I got bored of that, so I nuked my entire post history (having a script overwrite my comments with gibberish prior to deletion). Reddit had made it clear that “my kind” was no longer welcomed. Despite contributing to the sites growth, buying Reddit gold and Reddit merch, being exactly the type of user they had been courting, I had become persona non grata. So I lurked.
That was heartbreaking. Reddit had dwindled down to be nothing but hobby subs and porn. The magic was long gone. It was like watching a horrible remake of Weekend at Bernie’s where they kept shuffling around the corpse of a long-since-dead best friend. The worst was when there’d be a question from a user in one of my few subs left that was right up my ally - I would be eminently qualified to help, but held my tongue. Fuck that place, I refused to offer one iota of value to that God-forsaken shithole.
And now they want to take away the last thread that kept me there - my 3rd-party app, Narwhal, because of sheer greed and stupidity. I am so fucking done.
Lemmy, let’s do this shit. You remind me of that long-dead friend I’d thought was lost forever. Let’s kick Reddit right in the balls in the best way possible - by doing well.
Maybe it wasn’t like that, but the only times I interacted with the nonewnormal subreddit, I was floored by the rampant disinformation and dumb AF takes by most users. I understand why most other sub wanted nothing to do with it.
Also having beehaw defederate from other big instances is kinda the same as not wanting some subreddit communities interacting with your own (ie banning you because you participate in the same space as others we don’t want)
I kinda agree but they also applied the same stuff to /r/LockdownSkepticism too which was much more reasonable.
Yeah, beehaw is acting just like the power-tripping supermods.
I never saw any post from there so can’t comment.
I don’t think beehaw’s mods are in a power trip. They want to keep their community with like minded people and having open instances that are difficult to moderate on your own is not the best way for that. All in all, for me it’s federation going right. Instead of brigading, they put it on hold for the time being
Yeah, I just wish they’d done that from the start instead of the confusing bait 'n switch.
I understand why most other sub wanted nothing to do with it.
Totally fair enough. But Reddit already had a mechanism in place to deal with that - quarantine. Watching a ban-brigade take place across Reddit because they don’t like them was downright dystopian.
Did they (Reddit admins) quarantine the sub ? Or did they do nothing like most other problematic subs until the community said enough?
For those who still have a reddit account, I took the liberty to remind u/spez that he, too, wasn’t democratically elected, so I created a referendum post on whether he should remain in his position as a CEO. Maybe give this an upvote if you want to.
Upvoted, but it won’t work.
Of course it won’t. But it would help to colour him as the hypocrite he is.
hypocrite
Literally founded the place; chosen by co-founders/people with stakes in the company to be their CEO. That’s how businesses work, OP, stop being silly.
No problem with that. The hypocritical part is that he argued that mods are bad, because they aren’t chosen democratically. Here’s the quote I have trouble with:
“If you’re a politician or a business owner, you are accountable to your constituents." “And I think, on Reddit, the analogy is closer to the landed gentry: The people who get there first get to stay there and pass it down to their descendants, and that is not democratic.”
He says, the mods are bad because they haven’t been elected. But neither has he.
If he wants to suppress mods because they weren’t voted in, maybe there should be a vote about his position.
Yeah his argument is dumb - if you don’t like a particular sub or how it is run, you can (or could), create a new one. This new move by reddit makes that pointlesss- literally saying if they don’t like how you run it, they’ll take it over. How is that ‘democratic’?
@Lorez @squaresinger But their business is… not working :D
It never did, that’s the point. Ran at a loss from day one. Possible (likely?) the funding’s drying up, so might be a sink-or-swim moment for them.
That’s how businesses work
Is it?
If it is, should they? Feels like you’re blindly assuming that it HAS to be that way. I wholly disagree that it does.
undefined> If it is, should they?
Don’t go late stage capitalism on me now.
Don’t go boot-licking feudalist on me now.
It’s my basic inalienable human right to scrool and upvoot my reddits with Apollo on my iPhone! Give it me now or I’ll run away you… you feudal Nazi!!1!
Some tendies before you go, Che?
We deleted our Reddit account a few days ago.
I would like to but reddit is down again. LOL
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Replacing mods is a fun idea. But where do you get replacement mods from? Already before the whole debacle most subreddits had more or less intrusive “We are looking for new mods” statements all around their sub. One sub I’m in has a bot that comments on every post that they are urgently looking for mods.
And that was before Reddit started a war with the mods.
Are they going to let ChatGPT work as a mod?
I imagine some sort of generative AI at some point is their goal. We will see if it can be as effective as they predict.
That’s going to be a desasterˆˆ I’m looking forward to it.
Especially at first
Surprised Pikachu face
Embarassing, here’s to hoping that lemmy takes off
It seems to be.
Make sure to join Kbin communities through Lemmy too!
how do we find kbin communities from lemmy?
Well, you really have to go there and then enter it in the search field of your instance. People keep saying its !community@server but for me that does not work. The actual link did however.
So instead of looking for !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com, I look for https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/piracy and it works.
Well, user counts are relly stagnating. We’re at 140k and I don’t think it’ll go much above 200k
This was the bump from the blackout.
July 1 will be the next big influx of users.
That nsfw paywall is gonna have some interesting results.
It does not seem like the lemmy servers (and mods) can handle it. There are only few major instances that allow anyone to join, and these instances are gettimg defederated by other because the new users include trolls.
I’ve only seen one troll, who was banned from Lemmy.world very quickly. And one political troll that I just blocked.
Can you link to the issues in the mod log?
Beehaw’s power trip wasn’t really justified.
Why not share the link, instead of a screenshot of a link shared on Twitter?
I edited the post to have the link. Apologies for lacking one prior
We seem to be getting to them. Let them hire their mods, quality will go down, and we’ll still be here :)
Edit: spelling
Yeah, moderating a large sub isn’t as shake-and-bake as the admins seem to think. They might “hire” scabs, but the scabs are probably going to slack off pretty hard and might not even understand the tools and procedures that can make it effective but not stifling to content.
The mods of the Apple subreddit framed it as if they were making some great sacrifice by choosing to reopen the subreddit and remain in control. Obviously, the mods that are claiming this are full of shit, it’s more about the authority than it is giving a shit about a subreddit.
Well, if you think about it, Apple is a good example of corporate greed and ignorance to its users. They will sell some nonsense accessory for $1k, call it a nice name and Apple fans would be happy to buy it. So, it’s surprising that this subreddit even took part in blackout at all.
Apple users crave living in walled gardens where all decisions are made for them as they pretend to be smart and discerning technology users.
If I was disney/apple/amazon/whatever big corp now it would be the time to put my own people in charge of popular subreddits and astroturf my way through hell
