This seems to be on Floatplane (?), but has been posted publicly on Discord several times so I’m ok forwarding it here too. From the discussion, they plan to release this on youtube shortly. edit: Now updated with the youtube link. It’s cool that you can change the link after submission on Lemmy!
FYI this video is monetized.
Piped linked to avoid Linus making money off his own apology video: https://piped.video/watch?v=0cTpTMl8kFY
EDIT: some people are having issues with the main piped instance. backup link here: https://piped.mha.fi/watch?v=0cTpTMl8kFY
piped is a federated services. you can use other instances which are listed here: https://github.com/TeamPiped/Piped/wiki/Instances
I lost most of my good will for Linus when he made some mistake in the past and he reacted by threatening to quit for not being appreciated enough. Monetizing this apology is hilarious and not helping.
You know what will help? LTT store dot com
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I have to respect the balls of dbrand going like “yo heard you’re about to make an apology video for your fuckups, can we sponsor it?”
Would have been more tastefull if mentioned afterwards, the jokes where very misplaced.
Yeah agreed
Was gonna buy one of the LTT screw drivers, but now I don’t wanna give them fucks my money >:/
Maybe get an ifixit set.
Thanks for the link. I initially linked directly to the public .mp4 video file on floatplane, but I updated the post to the youtube link once it was published. I’ll leave the youtube link in the OP as I think it’s easier, although I don’t like that they monetised the video. GN didn’t monetise theirs.
edit: I didn’t notice at first, but having all this shit in the description is also just a bit tactless? Like, read the room guys. I know it’s probably just a default under all videos but didn’t someone think to omit it for this one?
Yeah and the LTT store ad in the video as well…
All good. Their inclusion of the blurb kinda meshes with Nick throwing to the LTT store LMAO.
It was one thing to make a small joke before all the allegations from Madison came out. Those are way more serious in my eyes than anything prior.
And had poor jokes in it. It wasn’t an apology, but way to make more money off it
This response would have been… fine, if not for Madison’s accusations. Now we wait to see if they make a part 2 I guess.
And the cringe inducing lttstore and “no sponsored fragment” plugs. Like somehow it sounds like your typical
apology.jpegand “haha funny-funny jokesies” at the same time.Also, the video is monetized even though GN’s wasn’t
Yeah, the only thing missing is them rubbing their nipples.
I dont really follow linus, mainly beceause I never really got the appeal overall. But i do play games and stuff so his content does cross my path here and there, but maybe I only see him during drama times like this. But this whole puppy dog face apology thing has to wear thin after a while…
I mean it seems like a dog and pony show to me and I hardly ever watch his content. How many times do you have to do stuff like this, apologize, etc then rinse repeat before people start catching on.
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They won’t make a video about sexual harassment allegations. As soon as actual crimes are alleged, yiu cannot go out on a video and say anything that will help you.
Maybe after the investigation and after a big ass settlement with the victim but even then you’d open yourself up to being sued for defamation if you name any names or even skirt around it.
From discord:
maybe a tightly controlled corporate response was exactly what they needed. Show people they can get something right over the last few days. instead they posted the email with the value of the CPU cooler that the vendor asked LTT to keep private. maybe next video they won’t make a mistake?
The only one giving decent controlled responses here was, as I sort of expected, the new CEO. Everyone else I got the fake apology vibe, especially from Yvonne.
Terran has his work cut out for him, and I don’t really blame him for taking 6 weeks to be a fly on the wall (it’s generally good to learn the current process before coming in and making massive changes) but this week has not been good for LMG and we will see if he manages to make something good from this experience.
Especially things like the Madison situation. I could see him being unaware of it until now, but now it’s time to address that as well.
Her starting out by apologizing for linus was a bad look. Linus still spent half his time trying to justify his actions. I really didn’t need to hear from the head of each department when the mistakes are clearly starting at the top. Plus they monitized it, have merch links in the bio, and plugged the store. I get the attempt at humor but plugging a product (ltt store) while you are apologizing for your product (content) is just not tasteful. I just don’t know how much they’ve taken to heart if they have this whole response ready after a day.
The only people I wanted to hear from on this video were the new CEO, to explain the changes going forward, and maybe Linus, to give an explanation for his behavior after the GN video. I had been considering a floatplane sub and was looking forward to the noctua screwdriver, but I won’t be making either purchase now.
Yeah I noticed that. Idk if LTT were asked not to publish it but GN did censor it. I don’t remember if they said they’d been asked to censor it or if they just took the initiative. It’s not a huge thing but it’s a bit sloppy to publish the number. As others have said, you’d think they’d want to be as clean as a whistle to prove they can do something properly, given the accusations of sloppiness
If I were LTT, I would’ve asked Billet Labs if its okay to reveal that number (not that it’s even relevant) and if I didn’t have time to wait, would’ve erred on the side of caution.
But like LTT said, they’re still them. So I don’t think it’ll get better going forward since they’re doing what looks to me really closely like doing whatever they can to look good despite it potentially hurting others (who they’ve already wronged).
IIRC GN was told to censor it
maybe next video they won’t make a mistake?
Lol
Gary Key made yet another mistake in this video lol. He claimed that Linus is the one who said they retest every video - and not his own damn team member.
Looks like they censored it in-place, at least it was when I watched it a couple hours ago.
Or some
PR trainings?just use common sense and read the fucking rooma tightly controlled corporate response
These suck for all kinds of reasons, but one of these definitely would have avoided the problems LMG is running into right now. I would say what they really need more than anything is a big, visible commitment to making things right for their employees - an outsider investigating sexual harassment is a start, but maybe also come out with a new less-rushed video schedule, since that’s what literally everyone working there has complained about.
I mean, I hate to do this but if they did, in fact, make a corporate apology video, then the community would mention how soulless and sanitized it felt. So…
Fucking wow, this is the best version of themselves?
LTT has always felt too smug for my tastes. Particularly Linus himself. It’s to the point that none of the revelations coming out about LMG and their internal drama is particularly surprising. It’s exactly the kind of behavior I’d expect from a “we can do no wrong” kind of group.
What really bothers me is that Linus is leaning on the parasocial relationship aspect of his popularity. He acts like he’s my buddy in need and not the star of a really big brand.
I never knew how to express that feeling where people move back and forth from capitalism and humanism. Last time it was at the eye doctor which is also a store to sell overpriced glasses. It feels fucked and makes me want to stay home.
This gives me vibes of the BP Sorry skit from South Park.
Without pressing play, that’s exactly what I thought when I saw the thumbnail.
We’re sorry… *rubs nipples*
This should have been the first response instead of the unhinged rant Linus posted on the forum. If they actually go through with the things they said in the video and fix their workflows and communication issues this should be a big boost to LTT’s reliability as a source. Good on GN for giving Linus the reality check he desperately needed. Would have been nice to hear something about Madisons allegations, but they probably scheduled the video to go live before madison posted them. Hopefully they make a follow up video about them.
Yeah, their assurance of “us staying us” takes a more sinister tone after Madisons tweets.
Maybe “you being you” is the problem… problematic behavior seems to be endemic to the company culture.
I think they should take a moment to figure out how to proceed regarding Madison, because I my opinion, her allegations are of nuclear proportions when compared to the recent events.
Lmao. This bullshit video doesn’t respond to Madison Reeves’ latest accusations, which include Linus personally being a piece of shit too (see screenshots below). Hope this means the end for LTT on YouTube. Note that the full thread is on Twitter here where she has responded to a few tweets that add further details.
Imagine if they had waited just a bit longer before making a heavily scripted apology video that still had bad jokes.
I am imagining that mid recording, the reason we see Linus almost crying is seeing Madison’s tweets on the screen next to teleprompter, appearing!
I doubt he’s screwed but I wish he was after seeing what they did to her. I remember her charisma and energy and how much she looked up to LTT and they exploited that for their own gain.
The irony of this video being posted first to floatplane (the platform she was being made to run all by herself on top of other pressures) is the icing in the cake.
Well, the video probably was recorded yesterday, and Maddison’s tweets came today, so it’s not like they had any control over that…
I’d assume they’ll address the tweets in detail later, but I mean… I want them to do something before talking about it.
Actions speak louder than words.
Maybe they could have fixed it with an asterisk. /s
*also Madison made some tweets. We sorry. Oops
“No employee has yet dared to speak out against our toxic culture, so our culture isn’t toxic”
None of this is surprising to me. How long has it been since Linus talked about burnout and quitting? They go way too fast paced. They’re all burning out. I look at MKBHD and they just seem so much chiller than everything at LTT.
Driving your employees to self harm and sexual assaults are typical symptoms of burnout.
This is a terrible apology video, what the fuck Linus…I hope they make another video regarding the sexual assault allegations. This is just in bad taste…I mean we’re talking almost blizzard levels of sexual harassment and assault stopping short of driving someone to suicide. Fuck these guys and their channel I hope they go under and get buried.
Bad news about that. The kid who bought the play button that Linus wanted took his own life, and his mother also after that due to fanbase harassment. Linus did little to stop the harassment.
The fuck….
This YouTube from Gamers Nexus is not monetized and appears to do a pretty good job addressing it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGW3TPytTjcThis video is actually a response to that.
With word from our sponsors! Just kidding! 100x
The video didn’t need jokes, that was in bad taste
Worst part of it was a few of them were not jokes. They actually shilled their own products in their apology video.
XD we’re so quirky XD
If only this was the original response instead of Linus expecting for everything to quiet down like always. Time will tell if anything changes, but the real reputational damage was done at this point.
They keep digging a deeper hole for themselves it’s almost comical. It’s tone deaf and insincere.
Madison’s allegations aside, I think Linus and his company has grown too big and too out of touch. Should have taken the 100m and retire…
Any summary of what happened?
On 13/8 Gamers Nexus posted this video: https://piped.video/watch?v=FGW3TPytTjc called ‘The Problem with Linus Tech Tips: Accuracy, Ethics, & Responsibility’
- talks about LTT’s rushed production schedule leading to an increase in quantity over quality, sponsor bias, and the Billet labs issues
Same day, 3 hours latter Linus posted this response on the LTT forums: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1526180-gamers-nexus-alleges-lmg-has-insufficient-ethics-and-integrity/page/16/#comment-16078641
- deflects and doubles down on the Billet thing
On 14/8 Gamers Nexus posted their HW news video with a response: https://piped.video/watch?v=X3byz3txpso
- rebuts some of Linus’s response and reemphasis Billet thing
Late on 14/8 or early 15/8 ex LTT employee Madison posted on Twitter/X about why she left: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1691693740254228741.html
Then this video came out
video was likely shot way before the Madison accusations and the release scheduled and almost certainly has nothing to do with the accusations
just for anyone thinking the timeline on that matters.
I still haven’t seen: have GN given any reasoning for why they didn’t reach out to LMG before releasing their video? If I remember even with other companies they’ve called out in the past they usually try to at least get a comment.
I’m not an LTT defender: their content has been cringe click-bait ever since they built a studio. But it seems odd both. Also it seems like a weird time to try to drive for change… Linus just acknowledged that he’s not great at running a large company and they are transitioning to a new CEO. It kind of feels like all this is criticizing a management structure that is already halfway gone anyways.
Steve directly addresses your question in both his videos at some point. He states that he did this to avoid the company (he is not making this about Linus, he is directing this at the conglomerate that is LMG) attempting to muddy the timeline and impact the journalistic integrity of the piece. Low and behold, even without reaching out for comment, Linus did in fact attempt to muddy the timeline and undermine the legitimacy of the piece. So exactly what Steve feared happening, is exactly what LMG did, sadly
Why did they need to reach out?
GN addresses LTT shit that they’ve publicly posted, and criticize what Linus has said, done, and repeatedly double downed on, on his own public pedestals of Twitter, Forum, WAN Show, Youtube Channels, Etc.
Giving Linus early warning would have done nothing but give Linus a chance to pressure GN into not doing it, and given Linus time to manipulate the narrative… Behavior he was already caught trying to do with his Forum post after the GN video came out, where he tried to make it sound like he had already settled things with billet, When he never even bothered to contact them until AFTER the video came out.
Not every goddamn journalistic story needs a comment from the subject, especially when its about the subjects very public bad behavior
He goes in to details about that in this video.
That does feel a little but beside the point to me in light of the Madison tweets though, they have bigger problems now.
GN talks about that at the start of their second video. It’s phrased as “journalistic best practices”: https://youtu.be/X3byz3txpso?t=48s
Here’s the story so far: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/gamers-nexus-vs-linus-tech-tips-billet-labs-review-controversy
It was compounded by Madison speaking out about why she quit: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1691693740254228741.html
Damn, never thought I’d be getting my tech YouTuber drama summaries from knowyourmemes.com
What a world we live in.
By 2130, knowyourmeme.com is the world’s most accurate and well-vetted repository of general knowledge.
Maybe I’m just too sensitive, but I’ve always found Linus and others on his channels to be insensitive jerks who just say what they think they need to.
I recently thought they had grown out of that upon returning to see what they are like these days.
I guess I was always right.
