According to YouTuber Dave2D who managed to get their hands on the Lenovo Legion Go S, the SteamOS version destroys Windows in performance and battery life.
It’s insane to me that we’re disagreeing about the word massive.
Rather than simply using it as the English definition…
We’re using the hype culture definition of massive.
Bro get over yourself. The improvements are NOT massive, fps or battery wise.
They are better and possibly even TONY THE TIGER GREAT. Massive is the size of your mom’s ass, not these gains based on a different OS.
Also I respect all mothers but I couldn’t help but use a dumb joke to make my point.
And last but not least… Go make this argument about price and or Linux to anybody that needs convincing. Because it’s not me man. I have a Linux rig. I also have a Mac OS and a Windows (gasp) 11 laptop because i code, make music, and play games. Sometimes I just browse the web for fun
By the way guess which OS is least compatible with the many different softwares I use for these purposes? It’s Linux.
Indeed. You do seem to struggle with differing opinions, as well as the definitions of words, like how you struggle to understand there’s a massive difference in performance between Windows and SteamOS on this handheld.
In absolute terms, these differences aren’t very significant (with maybe the exception of the 2 hours to 7 hours battery life improvement in that one specific game). But in relative terms, especially when considering that these games are not native to Linux, that these degrees of improvement typically only happen after a hardware upgrade, and that these improvements are available on the same device as the Windows version, but for $130 USD cheaper, it all adds up to something significant. In my opinion, the word “massive” is appropriate.
I’m sorry to hear that Linux has been the least compatible for your uses. It’s certainly not for everyone, but you at least have a plethora of alternative options at your disposal. I don’t understand why you’re making such a big deal about the manner in which other people are describing these improvements when clearly none of this applies to you.
I just think a lot of the discussion here gets lost because of the memes I guess?
Okay that’s fair. I disagree with the word “massive” being used here but that’s my right to do so etc etc.
To better answer your question: (stream of thought consciousness narrated into my phone so be forewarned)
Because I never brought price into the equation but other people love to start moving the goal post when all I said was massive is not the right word here.
It’s absolutely your right, and fine to disagree with the usage of the word “massive” in this context. It’s not OK to insult people who disagree with you however.
It’s OK for people to have differing opinions, and your initial comment was a good discussion starter. The edit complaining about it causing said discussion, saying “it’s that simple,” the subsequent post stating that you believed your opinion on the matter was the absolute truth based on the dictionary definition of the word “massive,” and that any disagreement was insane in your opinion, is where I take umbrage. I hope you can see where I’m coming from.
I’m sorry that your comment has ultimately driven such a negative response, and I hope you are able to have a good day regardless.
I don’t believe I edited any of my comments today but maybe I guess? In that same vein, did I say anything like “it’s that simple”. I did go back and read my comments just to be sure etc etc. I of course believe I’m correct (5-10% average performance/battery gains) don’t count as massive.
We were talking about performance but now price is part of the package for some reason?
So many people responded to me and at least half of the responses had to with price and how that’s massive!!
Anyways nah it’s all good. It was annoying as heck earlier. But then I logged off lol. North worth the hassle
Cool beans, I hope you’re having a nice evening by this point.
It’s massive because of context. Massive is inherently a comparative term. Something can’t be large or significant unless something else is small. Here the context is performance gains (in comparison to other forms of PC gaming) constrained by 1) being on exactly the same hardware 2) a sizeable price difference between the two options.
Here the performance gains are 10+% for a device which costs more than 10% less. The size of the performance gains in the handheld market would otherwise need you to buy a new handheld, and those fps increases would demand spending at least a few hundred bucks on a new GPU.
So massive performance gains with the implied context is absolutely true.
I was referring to this specific edit to your initial comment:
Edit: geez this single comment brought more people out of the woodwork to respond to me than anything else I have commented on lemmy
I’m not even here arguing which one is better like come on now
Massively is the wrong word to use it’s that simple
While I personally think that an average of over %10 FPS improvement in itself qualifies as massive in the current landscape, reasonable minds can absolutely disagree of course. The inclusion of price is just another layer of advantage, only bolstering the “massive” overall improvement.
I have been having a nice evening so far, thank you, and I hope you’ve been having the same.
It’s insane to me that we’re disagreeing about the word massive. Rather than simply using it as the English definition…
We’re using the hype culture definition of massive. Bro get over yourself. The improvements are NOT massive, fps or battery wise.
They are better and possibly even TONY THE TIGER GREAT. Massive is the size of your mom’s ass, not these gains based on a different OS.
Also I respect all mothers but I couldn’t help but use a dumb joke to make my point.
And last but not least… Go make this argument about price and or Linux to anybody that needs convincing. Because it’s not me man. I have a Linux rig. I also have a Mac OS and a Windows (gasp) 11 laptop because i code, make music, and play games. Sometimes I just browse the web for fun
By the way guess which OS is least compatible with the many different softwares I use for these purposes? It’s Linux.
I mean, it’s pretty clear that you are just dummy wrong.
It’s pretty clear that talking to you is useless.
You’re not gonna make me bad by calling me names lmao.
Indeed. You do seem to struggle with differing opinions, as well as the definitions of words, like how you struggle to understand there’s a massive difference in performance between Windows and SteamOS on this handheld.
I think it’s all a matter of perspective.
In absolute terms, these differences aren’t very significant (with maybe the exception of the 2 hours to 7 hours battery life improvement in that one specific game). But in relative terms, especially when considering that these games are not native to Linux, that these degrees of improvement typically only happen after a hardware upgrade, and that these improvements are available on the same device as the Windows version, but for $130 USD cheaper, it all adds up to something significant. In my opinion, the word “massive” is appropriate.
I’m sorry to hear that Linux has been the least compatible for your uses. It’s certainly not for everyone, but you at least have a plethora of alternative options at your disposal. I don’t understand why you’re making such a big deal about the manner in which other people are describing these improvements when clearly none of this applies to you.
Btw I love Linux
I just think a lot of the discussion here gets lost because of the memes I guess?
Okay that’s fair. I disagree with the word “massive” being used here but that’s my right to do so etc etc.
To better answer your question: (stream of thought consciousness narrated into my phone so be forewarned)
Because I never brought price into the equation but other people love to start moving the goal post when all I said was massive is not the right word here.
It’s absolutely your right, and fine to disagree with the usage of the word “massive” in this context. It’s not OK to insult people who disagree with you however.
It’s OK for people to have differing opinions, and your initial comment was a good discussion starter. The edit complaining about it causing said discussion, saying “it’s that simple,” the subsequent post stating that you believed your opinion on the matter was the absolute truth based on the dictionary definition of the word “massive,” and that any disagreement was insane in your opinion, is where I take umbrage. I hope you can see where I’m coming from.
I’m sorry that your comment has ultimately driven such a negative response, and I hope you are able to have a good day regardless.
I don’t believe I edited any of my comments today but maybe I guess? In that same vein, did I say anything like “it’s that simple”. I did go back and read my comments just to be sure etc etc. I of course believe I’m correct (5-10% average performance/battery gains) don’t count as massive.
We were talking about performance but now price is part of the package for some reason?
So many people responded to me and at least half of the responses had to with price and how that’s massive!!
Anyways nah it’s all good. It was annoying as heck earlier. But then I logged off lol. North worth the hassle
Cool beans, I hope you’re having a nice evening by this point.
It’s massive because of context. Massive is inherently a comparative term. Something can’t be large or significant unless something else is small. Here the context is performance gains (in comparison to other forms of PC gaming) constrained by 1) being on exactly the same hardware 2) a sizeable price difference between the two options.
Here the performance gains are 10+% for a device which costs more than 10% less. The size of the performance gains in the handheld market would otherwise need you to buy a new handheld, and those fps increases would demand spending at least a few hundred bucks on a new GPU.
So massive performance gains with the implied context is absolutely true.
I was referring to this specific edit to your initial comment:
While I personally think that an average of over %10 FPS improvement in itself qualifies as massive in the current landscape, reasonable minds can absolutely disagree of course. The inclusion of price is just another layer of advantage, only bolstering the “massive” overall improvement.
I have been having a nice evening so far, thank you, and I hope you’ve been having the same.