True… How would governments enforce dumb laws like that on open source software anyway?

Yeah I’ve recently come across the same understanding… In my management career I’ve never worked with a third party HR, so I don’t know how effective that model is.

Ah yes, how could I forget the age old and time-tested restart trick.

It’s what I’ve been saying all along

Seems like every mistake Linus makes he gets called a narcissist. If he sneezes do we call him a narcissist?

Production needed to shut down for various valid reasons.

• with 15+ million subscribers across however many channels, not everyone might be in the loop. They have to be informed. This is evident with constant posts asking what’s going on.
• the current and existing channels are not working, and require a review. You need to shut down production to fully assess the problem.
• if production didn’t shut down, I bet he would be called a narcissist for continuing to release videos.

Linus fucked up. Bad. But I don’t envy his fame. Everything he does, whether right or wrong, if damn if he does, damn if he doesn’t. Let him and Terren have the time to try to fix it.

Are you okay?

I thought it was Colton? In the LTT response video with all the company heads, Colton mentioned HR was under him… Maybe it transferred from Yvonne to Colton at some point?

Now this is exactly the type of professional language I would expect to see, not the off the cuff defensive language Linus unfortunately resorts to in difficult times.

1. Acknowledgement and recognition of the problem. 2) next steps 3) timeframe (they didn’t give a specific timeframe, but did ask for time, which is ok, since they may not know how long it may take).

Serious (no jokes like with previous statements), factual, unbiased, no kneejerk emotional outbursts.

LMAO

Now I’m just trying to imagine Terren walking into LMG with a sink 😂

Correction to my original comment: up until 7 weeks ago…

But while I’m sure discussions have been started, having been exposed to new leadership in my experience, it does take a while before new leadership can really roll out required changes. Most of the time spent in the first 30-60 days is to listen and understand the lay of the land (which Terren also mentioned). But even then, grave issues like the ones Madison called out usually won’t be known to new leadership until later, unless a report/exposure is made (like what Madison did).

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Of course, there are many “learn-on-the-job” organizations that have gone forward and done amazing things.

However, while I agree that these issues don’t naturally manifest themselves and stem from unprofessionalism and basic respect, I would argue that specialists and professionals in those functions (HR, Finance, Ops, etc) can help establish policies that mitigates and discourages such behaviors. If people can’t do that voluntarily, then policies and consequences are enacted to enforce it.

This is why many companies (and I’ve worked in a few in the tens/hundred thousands of employees) have clear business conduct guideline policies and enforcement, because people who lack professionalism and basic respect for fellow humans are actually quite prevalent in any and every company. I’ve witnessed a few myself that led to immediate termination of my colleagues.

Oh exactly, he oversees many functions that are traditionally held by separate people. You can’t juggle those functions in parallel without degradation in quality and proper oversight… Which seems to be the theme over the past couple of days…

Wow quick and decisive action by CEO to call in external investigation. Reading Linus’ response, it doesn’t even appear that he would consider external investigation. He states that HR would conduct a thorough review. I’ll be frank, I don’t trust Colton to run the HR review.

I bet once this issue is resolved, we might see Terren bring in external subject matter experts to completely overhaul LMG business operations. HR consultants, Operations and Logistics consultants, Finance, etc. Up until now, LMG was/is run by a self-taught/self-made/learning-on-the-job crew. Can’t do that when you’re now a corp.

Edit: I would love to sub to a channel called TBT (Terren Business Tips) 😂

Took me a moment to even see Steve and Linus’ faces on it. This is quality stuff.

In my experience there are a few types of executives. Executives that grow into their roles in a company, and executives that are parachuted in to solve organizational problems, whose entire career is built around solving someone else’s legacy.

This new CEO seems to be the latter (afterall he was hired to fix the admin and operations woes), so I really doubt he’ll quit (only time will tell). What is probably unexpected for him (and he alluded in his vid) that it was originally going to be internalized. Now he has to fix the company under the scrutinizing microscope of viewers.

I’m not sure how I feel about the Linus part (still conflicted), but I definitely agree with selling away Linus’ shares. Having other shareholders will require the introduction of a board of directors (who the company will be accountable for) and force LMG to do things the right way (e.g. establishing the right policies that Linus didn’t want - or didn’t have the experience - to do).

However, a share buyout from Linus would more than likely mean a voluntary departure from Linus (as he no longer has a large stake in the company).

While that might be good from a company longevity standpoint to have Linus depart LMG, as a viewer, I’m not sure I would continue watching tech tips. I watch Linus purely for the entertainment factor. So would Linus’ removal really benefit the company in the long run in terms of value to me as a user (as I can only speak for myself)? I honestly don’t know and am conflicted.

Don’t apologize, I fully get where you’re coming from. It’s part of the nature of socialization on forums :). I’ve been guilty of the same thing, especially on Reddit.

However, what I appreciate about Lemmy is that, with a smaller community, we can have better conversations and these threads don’t completely explode into subthreads of miscommunication and get amplified the way Reddit threads do. Thanks for sharing your perspective!

It was absolutely not my intention to detract fault from LMG and shift blame to Billet. LMG needs to take accountability for the faults in its process (which I’ll touch on in a sec). My intention was to understand the full context of the situation, and understand Billet’s reasoning for taking those risks, not to deflect nor “whataboutism”.

That aside, this demonstrates a clear gap in policy on how to handle prototype products on LMG side (among other major major policy gaps in logistics, finance, HR, production).

As you pointed out, Billet (and LMG) should have had written agreements, which shows gaps in policy on both ends. But Billet is a startup, LMG is not, and I would expect LMG to demonstrate more policy maturity than what they have shown at this stage.

I suspect he’ll see this as a challenge and try to right the ship, regardless of how seemingly impossible it may be. Quitting this early would not serve his career, but trying to fix the problems leads to two outcomes: 1) he fails, but has tried nonetheless, which looks better than quitting before even attempting, 2) he succeeds in becoming the savior of LMG and helps build his track record of success further.