A fellow mod informed me that about it as I was laying in bed. Reddit sent a message to the mod team and after 1 hour demoded me. I didn’t even had time to see it, never-mind respond to it.

Looks like we rattled reddit enough to start shooting. There goes all that fancy talk about our protest not affecting them much.

Just FYI for now. It’s late here so I’ll see how we proceed tomorrow.

  • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPMEnglish
    21·
    1 year ago

    I checked nosr. It’s very misguided. It’s anti-spam strategy is wishful thinking. I wish them best of luck, but my belief is that it will crash and burn due to trying to fix something unfixable.

    • milahu@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      21·
      1 year ago

      It’s anti-spam strategy is wishful thinking.

      huh? relays can choose to block content.

      my belief is that it will crash and burn due to trying to fix something unfixable.

      abuse of power is fixable through nomadic identities and signatures. your lemmy instance will “crash and burn” when you decide to pull the plug. its funny to watch people trying “more of the same”, naively hoping for the best with every iteration.

      • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPMEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        relays can choose to block content.

        This is so naive I don’t even know where to start. But it’s ok, I don’t need to convince you. Reality will do it for me anyway.

        • milahu@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          1·
          1 year ago

          please explain. me (and the nostr project) would love to hear your criticism.

          also, relays are free to implement further anti-spam measures: captcha, email, phone, payment, …

          • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPMEnglish
            11·
            1 year ago

            No. I literally don’t have time to deconstruct this for you now. I suggest you open a dedicated thread for this discussion on one of the communities speaking about the fediverse and ask for people’s opinions. I’m sure you’ll get a lot of people to debate this with.

            • milahu@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
              22·
              1 year ago

              cheap excuse. there is nothing to “deconstruct” here. you can implement exactly the same anti-spam measures in a nostr relay.

              i guess your problem is: you dont like competition. when i can host all the content from “your” relay, but with better moderation, then users will prefer my relay.

              i see this stupid mindset all over the “warez scene”. “my release”, “my content”, “my profit”… for fucks sake, you people just as stupid as the people who write copyright laws… the only question is: stupid or evil? scriptkiddie or CIA?

              now you can ban me to prove my point : D

              edit: also, you seem to have a problem with free speech. looking at your modlog, where you ban people for “Misogyny” or “transphobia” or “condescending”. literally, this is worse than reddit.

                • milahu@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
                  3·
                  1 year ago

                  Have you ever listened to an argument — perhaps it was generously titled a ‘debate’ by the participants — wherein each and every manoeuvre attempted by either of the participants amounted to little more than the attempt to assert one’s ego, show off one’s supposed knowledge and dominate the other in a flashy display of rhetorical proficiency? These are the debates to which we can barely listen for more than ten seconds without rolling our eyes and beginning to tune the combatants out, because this is precisely what they are: fighters, in the ring, trying to barbarically destroy the other person for personal glory and the vindication of a childish sort of rivalry founded on the belief in the superiority of oneself. It is, in many ways, rather pathetic to witness.

                  what? of course im fighting to win, because i have the technical skill to see how nostr is better than activitypub.

                  obviously you are fighting to protect your fragile public image, to keep your stupid followers, who lack the technical skill to see quality.

                  your rhetoric:

                  • “everything is fine”
                  • “its complicated”
                  • “that other thing is shit”, “misguided”, “wishful thinking”
                  • “i dont need to convince you”, “i dont have time”, “ask someone else”
                  • you ignore fundamental problems like vendor-lockin, abuse of power, the overblocking of free speech that you call “moderation”

                  all in all: a perfect reddit moderator, but definitely no alternative to reddit. as i said, just “more of the same” reddit abuse-of-power mainstream bullshit. byee!

              • SnowOneKnows@fixate.social
                1·
                1 year ago

                @milahu @db0 my issue with nostr is it seems to be another private “network” while activity pub has issues it at least lets me talk on mastodon/lemmy/kbin and see posts from all those services.

                and I can freely move my account from one instance to another one if needed than migrate back home even.

                and for privacy in small groups you can even implement your own peer to peer encryption so DMs remain private between trusted sources.

                • milahu@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                  2·
                  1 year ago

                  my issue with nostr is it seems to be another private “network”

                  no need for speculations (“seems”). just read the intro https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nostr and visit some public frontends like https://iris.to/ or https://snort.social/ or https://nostr.ch/ or https://nostribe.com/ … or other clients https://github.com/aljazceru/awesome-nostr#clients

                  while activity pub has issues it at least lets me talk on mastodon/lemmy/kbin and see posts from all those services.

                  posts on activitypub are not even signed… the only advantage of activitypub is more users, more content. but quantity is a poor indicator for quality.

                  its possible to create aggregating clients to “bridge all the networks”, or to use bridges https://github.com/aljazceru/awesome-nostr#bridges-and-gateways

                  • SnowOneKnows@fixate.social
                    1·
                    1 year ago

                    @milahu I have looked at the bridges and the use still tends to create errors for the encryption I have always supported that users should be taking the initiative and using GnuPG encryption for sensitive messages on all platforms so your not relying on any one else’s use of data.

                    So I know it started with crypto being the push for this one can you tell me if it is still heavy into cryptobro hype?

                  • Océane@eldritch.cafe
                    1·
                    1 year ago

                    My main concern with nostr is that it’s developed by a man who’s abused me for 8 years without even knowing I existed, so discussing about specs or clients is missing the bigger picture (basically tech bikeshedding).

                  • iSharted@sh.itjust.works
                    1·
                    1 year ago

                    I like the idea of nostr, but is there a fork around to avoid the stream of cringe bitcoin talk? I think this would be ideal for something like high speed discord, more than a twitter replacement.