A fellow mod informed me that about it as I was laying in bed. Reddit sent a message to the mod team and after 1 hour demoded me. I didn’t even had time to see it, never-mind respond to it.
Looks like we rattled reddit enough to start shooting. There goes all that fancy talk about our protest not affecting them much.
Just FYI for now. It’s late here so I’ll see how we proceed tomorrow.
not enough. the big problem with activitypub/fediverse/mastodon/pleroma/lemmy is the lack of “nomadic identities”, which would allow full replication of my account on any instance.
without nomadic identities, you have the same vendor-lockin bullshit as with reddit/twitter/facebook: when they close your account, your content is gone. when a lemmy-instance closes your account, your content is gone.
see also: https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nostr#the-problem-with-mastodon-and-similar-programs
But what other federated entity allows for nomadic identities? And how would it work?
This is not a simple problem to solve and it exists nowhere online. The fediverse however affords at least way more control than reddit or any forum where they can do the same and you have no options whatsoever
it is a solved problem. there are multiple implementations of the nostr protocol. nostr is newer than activitypub, so its less mature, but certainly a better foundation to build upon, ie more future-proof. nostr is similar to bittorrent: anyone can seed my content, and recipients can verify my content with my public key.
more control for admins, but not more control for users. i trust nobody, no admins, no moderators. sure, there are ways to archive and replicate an activitypub instance (just like reddit/twitter/facebook), but it is not a fundamental property of activitypub.
conspiracy ahead: these federated tools (activitypub, matrix chat) are “popular” because they enable censorship. nostr is promising censorship-resistance, but its not quite there yet.
You’ve sold me on nostr as a protocol, and the importance of nomadic identities more generally. Thing is, I don’t and have never used twitter, or any simililar platform, since I’m not really interested in that model of content consumption. (User/follower based)
I’m much more interested in group/community based models, like lemmy/reddit, and conceptually even futaba/chan style imageboards where users can create their own boards (though I have yet to see one that isn’t a cesspit).
I checked nosr. It’s very misguided. It’s anti-spam strategy is wishful thinking. I wish them best of luck, but my belief is that it will crash and burn due to trying to fix something unfixable.
huh? relays can choose to block content.
abuse of power is fixable through nomadic identities and signatures. your lemmy instance will “crash and burn” when you decide to pull the plug. its funny to watch people trying “more of the same”, naively hoping for the best with every iteration.
This is so naive I don’t even know where to start. But it’s ok, I don’t need to convince you. Reality will do it for me anyway.
please explain. me (and the nostr project) would love to hear your criticism.
also, relays are free to implement further anti-spam measures: captcha, email, phone, payment, …
No. I literally don’t have time to deconstruct this for you now. I suggest you open a dedicated thread for this discussion on one of the communities speaking about the fediverse and ask for people’s opinions. I’m sure you’ll get a lot of people to debate this with.
cheap excuse. there is nothing to “deconstruct” here. you can implement exactly the same anti-spam measures in a nostr relay.
i guess your problem is: you dont like competition. when i can host all the content from “your” relay, but with better moderation, then users will prefer my relay.
i see this stupid mindset all over the “warez scene”. “my release”, “my content”, “my profit”… for fucks sake, you people just as stupid as the people who write copyright laws… the only question is: stupid or evil? scriptkiddie or CIA?
now you can ban me to prove my point : D
edit: also, you seem to have a problem with free speech. looking at your modlog, where you ban people for “Misogyny” or “transphobia” or “condescending”. literally, this is worse than reddit.